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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Pop Top Canvas Choices FAQ Reply with quote

Im going to spring on a new top and Ive seen mixed reviews when I searched. Ive got three choices. Any feed back?

This is a new one on the block and got my attention.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=898853

Ive asked for direct feedback from some owners of this one

http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=231069708Y

Then this looks the same as the one above for slightly less

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=941515

Im a little spinnin Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My vote would be for original german westfalia from the bus depot.It will fit the best.Not cheap but you get what you pay for.I would not buy anything someone has already installed.For an extra 200.00 you buy it once.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go with the bus depot canvas. Look in my gallery to see why. I'm not impressed with the fabrication and the mistakes in it. Couldn't see what was wrong until it was installed. To make it worse, I have contacted BD about the problem and never was responded to. Embarassed I figured they would have stood behind their products a little better.

Here is the image showing the obvious flaw in the manufacture. It looks nothing like the other photos and other canvases that I have seen. It is most likely the only one like this, but it was a gift from my wife and I am still not happy it looks this way and I don't have the funds to buy a another brand new canvas.

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My bus is on the left and a go westy canvas is on the far right. Middle bus has the original canvas. Notice the window shape and the lack of symmetry.

Still waiting on Bus Depot to help a loyal customer out so I can stop telling people not to buy canvases from them. hint hint.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are talking apples and oranges.Your canvas is the "Bus depot"import from who knows where.I am talking about the original westfalia canvas from germany with the windows,400.00.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is mine I got from CIP....perfect fit, big ole windows....loved it...

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite what others have said, I had good experience with the budget canvas from Bus Depot when I installed it on my now-sold 77 Westfalia. It is of course important to mark the corners and be careful during the installation process for the finished product to look good.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the budget canvas from Bus Depot just after installation.

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There's ABSOLUTELY nothing wrong with this product. It's the Just Kampers canvas without the international shipping. And, except for getting those little screws in the corners Razz, installation was a breeze. Peace!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We are talking apples and oranges.Your canvas is the "Bus depot"import from who knows where.I am talking about the original westfalia canvas from germany with the windows,400.00.


I now agree with you. I didn't realize that my wife bought the BD exclusive design canvas. It still doesn't look right to me, but oh well, live and learn and buy the best canvas available next time.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do have some small factort to consider. Its for a 68 and I do want the og yellow color. I plan on Velvet green paint, I love the color combo.

So thats partialy why I posted the WW one and the BD. They seem to have nice looking-well built-propper colored ones. If they are made in Germany to a higher standard then all the better.

Thanks for the input so far. Anything else?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another review from someone who has the same pot-top style (1970).

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The one on the far right has the go westy repro, mine has the bus depot westfalia replacement. Difference in color, but on inspection, neither of us noticed a discernable difference to favor one over the other.

Ron - care to chip in?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice-thanks pjalau. Any more shots of it in action?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been saving for this one. We are so most here in the middle of the country that even paint molds..

I like nylon as it is quick drying. They are kinda pricey, and its too early to tell if they will last 30 years, but they come in a lot of colors
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This is a new one on the block and got my attention.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=898853

This is a Chinese made product that was offered to me about six months ago. The price was right, but I passed on it after comparing one side-by-side to my budget canvas. The Chinese material was much thinner. Frankly it did not meet my standards. Given its cheap wholesale cost, I'm sure it will turn up at other vendors as well (if it hasn't already worked its way into the pipeline).

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Ive asked for direct feedback from some owners of this one
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=231069708Y

AFAIK the one Wolfsburg West sells is a U.S. made repro that is also sold by several other retailers. It is significantly better than the Chinese one. However it does not look very stock, being a rougher cotton texture with darker screens. Fit is pretty decent but tends to be a little tight. I am personally not a huge fan of it, but you could do much worse.

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Then this looks the same as the one above for slightly less
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=941515

Well, this private advertiser is saying this is our Genuine OEM German canvas, which would in fact make it different from the Wolfsburg West one. If so, he's selling it for $79 less than he paid us for it. Oddly, the picture in the ad does not look like the German canvas. Maybe it's just the lighting but the color and screens look different to me.

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Here's the budget canvas from Bus Depot just after installation... I have had good experience with the budget canvas

It's the best I've found for anywhere near the price. It's definitely the best bang-for-the-buck out there; it comes reasonably close to the OE look and quality, for less than the price of the U.S. made one. However, it is not as good as our OEM German one, which is hands-down the best you can buy. Here is a page with links to all of the various options: http://busdepot.com/details/canvas.jsp

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Don't go with the bus depot canvas. I'm not impressed with the fabrication and the mistakes in it. Couldn't see what was wrong until it was installed. To make it worse, I have contacted BD about the problem and never was responded to.

I have searched all of our Outlook files. We received no email from you about a canvas, nor can I find any record of selling you one. It's hard to tell from the picture - maybe it's the wrong canvas, maybe it's defective and was cut wrong, maybe it's installed wrong. Can you send me details by pm?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone heard anything about the Hemp canvas? Good bad or ugly?

Link to one...http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3656&category_id=135&category_parent_id=[/url]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone heard anything about the Hemp canvas? Good bad or ugly?

Link to one...http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3656&category_id=135&category_parent_id=[/url]

great. so every time you get pulled over, the police dog goes nuts and the cops disassemble your bus looking for contraband
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Has anyone heard anything about the Hemp canvas? Good bad or ugly?

Link to one...http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3656&category_id=135&category_parent_id=[/url]

great. so every time you get pulled over, the police dog goes nuts and the cops disassemble your bus looking for contraband


When I get pulled over for speeding?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go polka dot, Hawaiian, or get patriotic with a stars design:

http://www.proudtopop.co.uk/poptops/index.html

http://www.proudtopop.co.uk/designs/index.html

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it sounds like I may be dropping 4 bills to get a yellow German one?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy Hippie wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about the Hemp canvas? Good bad or ugly?

Link to one...http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3656&category_id=135&category_parent_id=[/url]


You can dye the hemp ones easier.. They are whiter to begin with... thought about that too.. I got vw and Westfalia tie dye sheets from these guys, good quality, and they are pretty.

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http://www.beandawgdyes.com/ (under Household stuff)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tie dye poptop awesome!
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