Kamax Bolts.

Wolfsburg Classics · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject: Kamax Bolts.

Guys
For all you Split experts out there I have a question for you.
I am going through my 14mm headed Kamax bolt collection to sort out some bolts for the mounting of the fenders on my '51 Kabrio...I have come across two different sorts and was wondering which ones are the correct ones.All are Kamax 14mm M8X20 and some have 8G on the heads and the others have 5D.Got to do it correctly so what ones are correct?

Skim · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject:

DaveM is our in house Kamax bolt techniciado. Shoot him a PM. Hopefully he has some answers for you.
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ScrapJunkie · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject:

Damn..some people are REALLY anal about bolts. I thought it was just DaveM. Laughing

So, when did Kamax hardware stop getting used?
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bill may · Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject:

5D are used on stuff like gastank hold downs and such. 8 or 10 are used stess places. clutch cover is 8 some suspension are 10 a matric 8 is like sae grade 5 is this helpful? kamax,dorn and another, cant think of off top of my head.

RareAir · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:25 am Post subject:

Rasche is the 3rd OEM supplier to VW for bolts. Original hardware is the only way to go.

Mark Evans · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 6:07 am Post subject:

So where is Dave, the Kamax guru?

RareAir · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:02 am Post subject:

DaveM · Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:49 am Post subject:

yes, the '8' labeled bolts are harder than those labeled '5'. I don't know split beetles at all so I cant tell you what is correct for your '51. I do know later beetle use the thick 13mm headed 8mm bolts but i cant say the hardness... i'd have to go over to the garage and look.

VW bolts:
Kamax
Dorn
Rasche
Ribe
Dera
Verbus

I think the Dera are only on later stuff. I know my 59 double cab has all brands but the dera and verbus.

http://www.amayesing.com/bolts.htm
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Wolfsburg Classics · Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: Kamax Bolts

Thanks guys for your input so far.
Yeah I know its anal but I have spent so much time doing this car so far that I want to get it right.
I checked my pointed body mounting bolts and they are Kamax 8G so they are the stronger ones...what would the fender bolts be 5D or 8G....some splitwindow expert must know????
Please help me as I want to get these off to the platers for finishing.

RareAir · Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:16 am Post subject:

NOSboy or DaveM-- Do you have any extra 14mm bolts you wanna sell? I need a few (36) to mount my fenders as well.

DaveM · Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 8:56 am Post subject:

i have no extra 14mm headed 8mm bolts... sorry.
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bill may · Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject:

i have the 14MM head ones for steering coupler to shaft and steering box.

RareAir · Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject:

bill may · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:49 am Post subject:

i got them wed. with the 2 couplers i bought.

RareAir · Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:07 am Post subject:

bill may · Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:43 am Post subject:

drag that ragtop part to pamona row 34 / space 35 + 37 and get money from johnny ($50) give money to me. and ill give you all 8 bolts and nuts.

Wolfsburg Classics · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:00 pm Post subject: .

Guys
Just to keep everyone up to spec.
I consulted my '52 parts manual and it shows that the fender bolts were M8X20 DIN 931,on further investigation the DIN 931 is 8G,so I guess that is what they will be.Luckily I was able to come up with a complete set of 40 Kamax 8G bolts for the fenders.
Off to the electroplaters they go for the correct black finish.
For reference early bolts came in two main hardness grades,DIN 931 which is 8G and DIN 933 which is 5D,these grades are used all over the body area etc.....there was also 10k which was mainly used on high stress areas like rod bolts,suspension etc etc.
Hope this helps all those that care......or are anal about these details.
I am.

Rusting Hulk · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: Re: .

Wolfsburg Classics · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:29 am Post subject: .

Simon
I have to agree with you....that visit to that cetain little shop in 'Temple City' has also effected me,the pursuit of correctness has now begun.And I want to visit there again in June...I must be a sucker for punishment!!!.

RockStock · Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:28 pm Post subject:


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