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fig Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2000 Posts: 1080 Location: 26.15°S, 28.2°E
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:49 am Post subject: 211 012 905? |
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I came across this in the accessories section of my 67 parts list:
211 012 905: Sleeping arrangement for Micro Bus up to
chassis no. 971549; Type & model: 221-244
What did this kit look like? Is it an owner/dealer install Westfalia kit?
Chassis no. 971549 is in July 1962, near the end of 62 model year
production. I wonder why there is no kit listed for later buses?
Any ideas? Pics? _________________ fig
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fig Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2000 Posts: 1080 Location: 26.15°S, 28.2°E
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Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Still no takers on my question about the "sleeping arrangement" listed
under part number 211 012 905???
Here's another version of the Martin Walter Dormobile interior. This one
has a formica interior, unlike my Dormer, which has all the cupboards and
stuff in hammerited sheet metal:
_________________ fig
Kaapse Kombi Kult
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KamperKitJay BDM Hit Man
Joined: May 13, 2003 Posts: 404 Location: San Diego CA.
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dieselnut Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1510 Location: Lurking...
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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More Kamper Kit pics in this auction. I think the price is high enough that I can safely post it and not feel like I'm stepping on somebody's "not known to the masses" good deal... Plus, it's buried in here anyway....only the motivated will find it! Cool bus...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4565929942 |
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derRHDmeister Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2004 Posts: 560 Location: worldwide
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:31 am Post subject: which camper kit? |
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127735
has two small camper windows each side that are operated by hand crank. will try take more pics of it up close but any idea? wards i think? its a 60 to 61 camper and used to be a panel (conversion probably) but done professionally or??
need to find out which camper layout i should go for... i know for sure not westy but need to find a design to start the interior (from stratch w new similar type wood but w original plans if possible?)
appreciate it guys! |
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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Run some pics of the interior up, can't tell much from what you've posted. If it's a Montgomery Ward version - Josh would probably know. |
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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KamperKitJay wrote: |
I have a Kamper Kit,,, check my pics if you want to see more....
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That stove looks like an old rim! Cool! _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
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fig Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2000 Posts: 1080 Location: 26.15°S, 28.2°E
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Can anyone ID these camper interior bits? I think they're from a RHD 64-67 westy. Anyone know for sure? SO number?
_________________ fig
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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on the type of wood - they'r either SO-33 or SO-35. The former is birch (I believe), and the latter is pearwood. In the pictures, these appear to be birch to me, but I could be wrong.
These westys ran from the late '61 model year through the early '65 model year. Flipseats were more common earlier in this run (eg SO-35), and SO-33's were more common later in the run.
The earlier versions of this kit had metal latches, like the SO-23's did. It appears the ones in the picture had the later plastic version. So assuming this is birch, I'd guess it's probably from a late '63 or '64 SO-33, as non SO-42/44 '65's are almost unheard of.
SO-33's came in two version - regular and MOSAIK. I'm not sure if the MOSAIK versions came w/ the electrical outlet for the hanging chandelier, but if they didn't that would be one way to further ID your pieces. Of course, they secured to the inside of the bus differently as well.
Not many RHD westys floating around anymore.... VERY cool pieces! |
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Kommercial Samba Moderator
Joined: December 28, 2000 Posts: 1154 Location: San Tan Valley, Arizona
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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The closet door looks way too high up to be so33. the so34and35 closet door is all the way bumped up top like that. The rear cabinet on the right also looks like pearwood to me. Also the 33 closet doesn't have that support rod in it, maybe the so35 does?
The Mosaik so22 (per westy literature its 22, not 33) didn't have the chandelier plug.
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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Kommercial wrote: |
The closet door looks way too high up to be so33. the so34and35 closet door is all the way bumped up top like that. |
Good eye!
Kommercial wrote: |
The Mosaik so22 (per westy literature its 22, not 33) didn't have the chandelier plug. |
Wow, this is cool to know. Was there a brochure for the SO-33? I've heard lots of different stories about the SO-22, would love to see something in black and white. |
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Kommercial Samba Moderator
Joined: December 28, 2000 Posts: 1154 Location: San Tan Valley, Arizona
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west4me Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject: Bowman & Sons |
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New to the split bus but thought I would contribute. My friend and I recently purchased a 1967 camper to restore. We are well on our way but I have been curious to its origins. There are two metal tags on the passenger dog leg stating that it was built by Bowman & Sons. I have searched around and only found one picture of a Bowman bus and it was an exterior shot. The only thing that I found that stood out was the two burner propane stove that is built in on top of the fridge. I haven't seen that configuration anywhere else. Here is a link to our bus and the restoration process. I thought you may be able to use some of the images if needed. http://www.scuba26.com/n/2005/67-camper/
If you have any information on this bus or the company I would appreciate you letting me know. Thanks |
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camperfan Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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very cool. thanks for the link |
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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the intell. Kommercial, I'm not going to be so quick to pass by literature that's written in German in the future just b/c I can'd read 99% of it, as that 1% might come in handy!!!
Cool bus west4me, thanks for the link. Been wondering what those looked like... |
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fig Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2000 Posts: 1080 Location: 26.15°S, 28.2°E
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies on my westy cabinets.
So they are SO35? How does one tell if they are made of pear or birch?
There aren't exactly a lot of westies around here for me to compare with,
and I've never seen westy cabinets like these. The left-hand door of the
rear cabinet has been replaced with regular plywood, but the rest is original.
I had planned on using these cabinets in my panel, but the rear cabinet
doors are too low for a mattress, so it seems they can't be used with a
Z-bed, which is my main requirement. What kind of bed did the SO34/35
westies have? _________________ fig
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vtomike Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2004 Posts: 147 Location: The armpit of so. cal
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: 58 westy |
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Does anyone have the dimentions for the cushions in a 58 westy? Also i need the mesurements of the wood panels on the roof panels |
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vwjosh6070 Driveway Camper
Joined: August 24, 2003 Posts: 2802 Location: not camping...
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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update for the Montgomery Ward kit. it is indeed a Montgomery ward conversion. I met an older dude down the road from the shop who had a 67 Montgomery ward, with the same tent mounts as my 67 and kevin77westy's 65. they are out therem keep looking. _________________ josh, AKA "the infamous josh"
1973 Transporter "Floyd"
****Wheres my old bus?! 1967 Montgomery Ward Camper****
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atx_bus Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2006 Posts: 129 Location: Austin
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Great source of information on campers, I thought I'd never ID my camper until I found this thread a little over a month ago. I beleive that I have a 67 sportsmobile but I have not seen any pics of another 67 sportsmobile for definative confirmation.
If you think you have a 67 sportsmobile then please send me pics for a comparison. _________________ '66 Westy SO-42
'67 Sportsmobile Camper
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dieselnut Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got this post updated.
Lots of new information, primarily in pictures, for the non-westy areas. Please add more information to the site in the form of pictures and literature, we're still getting a lot of "help me to I.D. my camper" types of posts...
Specifically,,,,,
The site needs Sundial and E-Z Camper brochures since those two sites no longer exist and haven't for a while. Also needs Caravelle (Jeff?) and Sportmobile (Rich?) brochures. Please help if you have them!
Need pics of Mongomery Ward and Bowman and Sons interiors, etc.
Need more information on U.K. conversions, and any information on Aussie and Brazilian conversions. |
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