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Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:59 pm

ronnie wrote

Quote: I know what you mean, I'm hooked since I put the set in my panel. One of those things where I wished I had spent the money years ago, they would have been sweet in those hot, humid North Carolina summers.
Do you drive with them open in excess of 40mph often?

Whenever it gets warm out I open the driver's automatically 2 inches which is about 1/3 of the days in the Summer. I leave it there all day, freeway also, which I sometimes get to 70 mph. My driver's skylight will sometimes feel like it's letting the sun fry me, so the wind blowing is quite a relief. I put my baseball cap on backwards, don the shades and find myself whooping and screaming as I fly down the freeway.

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:13 pm

great, thanks. sounds like they'll work well for me.

Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:33 pm

Safari's at night cruising through the desert in Arizona are a fond memory. I ran some Wolfgang's at up to 60 fully open, what a wind tunnel. Most often I had them cracked a couple inches for everyday cruising. Keeps the popo happy. Wear sunglasses or safety glasses at night!

Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:45 am

I have been looking at safari windows on the Wolfgang site, I noticed that they come in white and polished stainless...I think I like the look of the white ones better, but here in the rust belt stainless seems like the way to go. Are the white ones just regular steel that has been painted/powdercoated, or are they stainless as well? The price seems to make me think that they are steel.

Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:48 am

Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:26 am

aggro_jo wrote: they are steel bubs. those are the ones you saw on my bus. fit great and trickled just a bit during that drive home from Tulsa
Cool Jo, I will watch them and see how they weather.

Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:08 am

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks to everyone for the great feedback and images.

I bought a '66 Double Cab I found here and it came with a set of safaris that are not installed and I'm itching to put them in. They were installed at one point. The brackets are welded in and the screws are in the dash for the latches. I even have a one-eyed duck!

Okay, so what about wipers with safaris? Most images I've seen it looks like people just give up and remove them altogether. This is going to sound dumb but how do wiper pivots work? How do I know if I have them? Like I mentioned I know the safaris were in at one point, but it doesn't seem like the wipers will go anywhere.

If in fact I don't have pivots, where can you find them and which ones are good? I saw that Creative Engineering has some. Are they any good?

By the way, it sounds like my regular windshields are leaking more than anyone elses safaris. Guess it's time to make the switch.

cheers | ian

Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:03 am

Creative Engineering also sell the wiper dissengagers
You might be able to get them locally.

I have a 55 micro that I am giving to a friend as I have just got a 64 13 window deluxe.
I will be keeping the safari's from the 55 and fitting them to the 13, .
Is it alright just to use self tappers to hold the hinge to the roof or should I get some nut serts(dont know what you call them over there, they are like a pop rivet but have a thread in them).

Dave

Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:11 am

Split 1 wrote:

Quote: Is it alright just to use self tappers to hold the hinge to the roof or should I get some nut serts(dont know what you call them over there, they are like a pop rivet but have a thread in them).

I used the sheet metal screws that CE supplied for the hinges, and like I mentioned above, they've held up perfectly for over 3 years...

Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:54 am

Split 1 wrote:
Is it alright just to use self tappers to hold the hinge to the roof or should I get some nut serts(dont know what you call them over there, they are like a pop rivet but have a thread in them).

Dave

We call them rivnuts overhere. I wouldn't use them. Order the right hardware from the maker of your safari's. It will make things easier at the end. If not, you need to borrow/buy the rivnut gun. It's just like a cherry max rivet gun, but it has a different insert to pull the shank of the rivnut. Good luck.

Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:46 am

Thanks.

The CE ones are ally, mine ore originals do you know if there is a weight differance and would the self tappers still be OK. Do the Wolfgang ones use self tappers??

Dave

Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:16 am

Are you refering to the self tapping screws that hold the bottom tabs on the dash? If so, I would asume any good quality screw would be a good substitute. My wolfgang set has self tapping screws on the tabs. A previous owner installed them, so i can't be 100% sure this is how they came from Wolfgang.

Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:32 pm

No I was refering to the ones that hold the actual safari windows to the bus, the ones in the hinge at the top.

Dave

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:20 pm

Hello
Has anyone resolved the replacement of OEM VW Safari glass - 0.200" thick, with modern AS1 DOT legal 0.250" (1/4") laminated glass, into these old OEM VW safari Frames?
CA requires a 1/4" laminated glass now - no arguements! - so the old .200" glass, as per original, can not be found.
AS2 is way too thin, for any windsheild, even one protecting a dead head with no fear of misquitos traveling at the speed of light which i gaurantee will shatter them, if they don't break over the first bump you hit when they are open.
If the AS1 is used, and a new gasket is also used - the assembly is way too darn tight to fit into the OEM frames, and glass breakage will take place...as was my first try at it, silly me... so I am trying to reolves this problem, and any ideas would be great.
I am conteplating having the windsheilds radius gound on all the edges, for a bit more give in the frames and rubber seal.
Is the AS1 requirement only a problem in CA?
Anyone know of a NOS OEM safari glass source perhaps???
I'm no restoration idiot, yet I have no control over currently available laminated glass and DOT requirements....a "Safari Clone Manufacturer", made me my replacement windsheilds, and neglected to inform me of the thickness problem...I guess he has a special 1 ton hydrolic safari frame vice to compact the whole assembly together, yikes! =/
Dreadlock optomism at work.
Thanks for you ideas!

Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:54 pm

I use original late split windshields...they are usually safety glass and can be cut to fit the safari frames. Hard to find good originals but that has been what I do in the past.

Note do NOT try to cut the earlier tempered glass, unless you do not know it just shatters.

Good luck

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:40 pm

I have been running 80mph with my Wolfgang Sarari's wide open an have had no problems. Just make sure the rear safari is closed along with all the other windows. I wear just my eyeglasses and remember not to smile.

Darn I miss this bus.

Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:10 am

http://dropgates.com/gallery/Double-cab/anb

It is still cheaper to go with new cut sheet laminated glass, then to recut the full size standard fixed in place windsheilds, to then fit into the Safari Frames - great idea though - I have tried this in the past too. Funny, the first time around...around WWII.... I bought my NOS tinted window from the VW dealer, circa 1981, and they were blue on top band and green tint all over, very nice glass. Then, it was cheaper then recutting... I don't think that old drunk War Hero Winston had a ride like mine, but I'll take his wisdom for what it is, and let my ride speak for it's self too.
WWII wisdom is great, nice to know there is a following of his active in VW's, but is there any modern ideas about glass, something more useful perhaps?
Thanks!
Keith

Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:41 pm

I am installing my restored original safaris. Does anyone know the correct order of the placement of the 4 washers on the slide? I know the nylon type brown washeres go on each side of the slide, but then there are two different metal washers, one is thicker, and the other is wavy like a lock washer, which of the metal ones goes on the wing nut side and which one goes on the tab side? Or did i just confuse the hell out of you? No one has responded on the "correct" diriction of the latches, anyone?

Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:26 pm

Would the locking washer go on the wing nut side ? Just a guess.

Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:39 pm

wavy washer optional, if used, usually placed over a solid washer in anycase ,so as to not break the fiber washer... or I might be all wrong too.

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