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Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:47 pm

well...got my bus back from the shop
after over a week they couldn't find any power drain...a day after I get it back it's dead again :evil:

anyways...back to topic
could not find any sticker with the colour ... but my plate reads
52 138 431
121 583 597 618
964849 D08 P27 060 073
24 1 7527 KN 2319 61

and build date is 06/75

I wish I could remember how I found the name Yosamite Yellow

it might be from this guy who owns a local gas station and is a VW collector
he has a 75 the same colour
I'll go to his station next fill up and ask...

Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:07 pm

Well, deadbeat Dave, that is VERY interesting. You have exactly the same color code as my bus, the code that 'doesn't exist'. Thanks for looking. This is the code list I've been using:
http://www.type2.com/m-codes/t2colors.html

Either there is a mistake in the lists, or you are actually driving a Ravenna Green travelin' machine.

According to the list, Bali/Yosemite Yellow L62H should have the codes B1B1.. on the metal tag. (we know now that Bali and Yosemite are the same)

Let's not even get into the interior code ....49 . There is no mention on the list of the green leatherette and the blue/green plaid cloth. In fact, there don't seem to be any Westfalia related upholstery codes. Another big hole in the information.

Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:24 pm

Dad's 74:

BTW, he's trying to sell this to get a Rabbit Vert to go behind their motorhome that they live in full time now. Towing a camper bus behind a motorhome is just wrong. Kinda looks like the mother-in-law suite when it's in tow. :lol: I'd buy it, but I need another rig like I need another hole in my head. :roll:

Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:29 am

Bugman_Jeff~ I challenge you to name that color. Yet another 74 color. Thanks for sharing. Did that Westy have the elec. fridge and propane stove?

Sun Apr 09, 2006 6:38 pm

So here's the pic of the paint used (obviously bought in Canada, avec english et francais) and the touch up job. I think it's a closer match than the Ravenna green. As for the interior, mine is certainly not "camping red".

Red

Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:31 pm

Thanks for sending me the number on your M-code tag, redgirl. Awesome. Your tag says 964849, the same as mine. Your photo shows a label from touch-up paint Bali Yellow L062H, which surely looks very close, if not the same, as the original paint color.

More evidence that production code 9648.. is actually color L062H, Bali Yellow (aka Yosemite Yellow).

Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:55 pm

Birdibus wrote: Bugman_Jeff~ I challenge you to name that color. Yet another 74 color. Thanks for sharing.

Dude, I wish I could. My 71 Fasty seems to be the same color. Not my pick, but it's the original color.

Birdibus wrote: Did that Westy have the elec. fridge and propane stove?

It has neither accessory. Just the icebox and the sink, unfortunately. But is is extremely clean and has litle of the typical rust. This was well cared for before we got it. The previous owner(s) loved this Bus as much as my Dad does, and it shows. Now I wish I had better pictures of it. :(

Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:26 am

Ravenna Green was a really common color for 914's. Same paint code as Karmann built the 914, Bug conv. etc.

Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:26 am

I am the 2nd owner of a delux 75 westy (with side bench, free standing stool, etc). I've had it repainted twice and bought the paint at 2 different stores. The color that each wrote on the paint cans is "yosimite yellow". That westy is in the shop now, but I'll check further to see if the sticker is intact (the interior has never been repainted)

Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:26 am

Bleyseng wrote: Ravenna Green was a really common color for 914's. Same paint code as Karmann built the 914, Bug conv. etc.

I actually saw a ravenna green ghia on the road recently, and I would have waved wildly, but I was driving the niagra blue bus. Hmmm... I wonder what is stamped on the metal production tag of those green ghias. Thanks for the photo.

WVVWFERG ~ That would be great. Wow, another yellow green travelin' machine.

Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:27 pm

deadBeat Dave wrote:
anyways...back to topic
could not find any sticker with the colour ... but my plate reads

52 138 431
121 583 597 618
964849 D08 P27 060 073
24 1 7527 KN 2319 61

and build date is 06/75

I wish I could remember how I found the name Yosamite Yellow...

For everyone who has posted to this thread - the info you seek is in the new book "VW Transporter and Microbus Specification Guide 1967-1979" by Vincent Molenaar and Alexander Prinz. Excellent book with TONS of information.

Chapter 8, Paint and Interior Colours, list everything you need. On page 75, the table (special paint job codes '72-79) lists code 9648 as "Raveena Green" L65K. There is no RAL code for it (an intl standard for cross referencing paint colours), and under "Remarks" it says "Westfalia".

For the interior code (table, page 76), 49 is "Camping Green", material is "Cloth", years are 74-76, and Remarks is "Westfalia Campmobiles".

Hope this helps, and I highly recommend the book. It was also mentioned here, and a couple of other threads.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=157996&highlight=transporter+microbus

Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:41 pm

Thanks Dave! Very helpful. The type2.com site must have some of their codes wrong. My M-code is 49 and my interior is green and blue plaid but their site is saying 49 is camping red. I'm also thrown by the paint can label I found in the records from the original owner that says Bali Yellow and there's bad touch up jobs all over the van.

Of course I'm making a leap by thinking the paint on the van is the same as the label...

Red

Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:00 pm

redgirl wrote: The type2.com site must have some of their codes wrong. My M-code is 49 and my interior is green and blue plaid but their site is saying 49 is camping red. Red

same here

Fri May 19, 2006 10:19 am

Sorry to revive this thread but I am new to the Bay bus forum.

The color is definitly called Yosemity yellow I have an origonal dealer can of touch up paint from vw (its a little thick but I still use it) it says the color name on the tiny bottle.

Birdibus I have the clone of your bus same everything from the pictures I have seen except the cool pinstriping.

Dan

Fri May 19, 2006 11:36 am

Hmmm, the 75 Westy I just got has the following info, which specifically calls it Ravenna Green:

52 028 305
507 583
964849 D05 P27 073 227
37 5 7549 UN 231963

VIN – 235208305

507 – vent wings in cab doors
583 - ?
D05 – ?
P27 – Westfalia Interior
073 – Pop up roof, campmobile
227 – detachable headrest in cab
9648 – L65K Ravenna Green
49 – cloth interior (blue plaid)
April 9th (week 37, day 5)
USA, port?
231 - Kombi, LHD, sliding door right,
963 – VW Campmobile,
249 – Automatic Transmission
609 Campmobile Deluxe
157 Fuel Injection, Emissions equip
251 – type IV engine, not type I

Fri May 19, 2006 11:55 am

TeamSpatula~ I think what we are getting at here is that we are not trusting the online color code lists. We think there might be a mistake with the name of the color that keeps getting perpetuated in other lists. I may be wrong about this, but it would be nice to nail it down definitively. The lists say Ravenna Green, but our touch up paints say Yosemite Yellow or it's equivalent Bali Yellow.

My Samba friends have been able to supply me with more info than I was able to find alone. We have made some progress. Just WHAT IS the correct color name?? We need someone to order the color samples and compare to OG paint. THEN we might learn even more.

Where did YOUR info come from? That's the first I've seen 49 accurately listed as cloth, blue plaid. No mention of the green vinyl color name, though. It's darker green than the sage green vinyl of 76-79 Westys, and I still haven't determined the correct name for it.

My point is mainly that info for 74 and 75 Westy models seems to be sketchy. I'm on a little mission to get the record cleared up, if possible. Thanks for your input.

Fri May 19, 2006 4:06 pm

Ok I am sitting in front of the touch up paint can't get a good in focus picture to look at the fine print but this is what it says:

Genuine Volkswagen

touch up aplicator

yosemity yellow
L62 H.1

shake well use at temp bla bla

and the VW symbol on the bottom

the flip side is all in german

Dan

Fri May 19, 2006 10:55 pm

hey all, I'm gonna get the touch up can from the PO of my bus this weekend. Will post as soon as I have a pic.

This link was posted on a different thread and if you look at page 1 in the 1974 list the yosemite yellow doesn't have the L62H paint code (it does on Page 2) but it's hell of lot closer than the raveena green.

http://autocolorlibrary.com/acl_files/volkswagen.html

We'll get this solved. There seems to be quite a few us driving these yellow/green guys.

Red

Sat May 20, 2006 7:31 am

redgirl~ One interesting tidbit from this link you shared, which is a photocopy of an original paper color chart from PPG Industries, Ditzler Automotive Finishes, is that Ravenna Green is noted to be a Ghia color (as if to imply it is not a bus color). And, yes, Yosemite Yellow is there! Click on year 1974:
http://autocolorlibrary.com/acl_files/volkswagen.html

Another curiosity is that on page 2 there is a color (avail 1971) on the list called Hippie Green L63M. Ha ha, I never heard that before! I could not find a color chip for it.

Sun May 21, 2006 6:05 pm

Birdibus wrote: My point is mainly that info for 74 and 75 Westy models seems to be sketchy. I'm on a little mission to get the record cleared up, if possible. Thanks for your input.

Birdibus, thanks for the email...

If your bus still had the silver sticker on the bulkhead behind the drivers seat, we'd have our answer ;)

I've always wondered about the Ravenna Green/Yosemite/BaLi/Sierra Yellow-L11H/Chrome Yellow (L20A/L21H) westies...

I did have Ravenna listed on my plaid page back in 2000, but since I was unable to verify it's existance, I removed the reference from my page. I always thought it was a Canandian color, but could never find the answer online.

I know for a fact that the colors available for 1979 in Canada were different then in the USA. I've got a scan of the US colors for 79 on my plaid page, and Rob Henley has a scan of the 79 Canadian brochure ( http://www.baywindowbus.com/79brochure.htm ). Maybe that's the case for the 74/75 westies, and it's the reason for some of the added confusion on the colors available. Your export mcode of UK, checks out as a USA bus, btw...

Here's a copy of my plaid page from 2000 (please excuse the broken image links, this was from 2 webhosts ago ;) ):

http://john-perry.com/geocities/vw/vwplaid1218.html

I've never been able to verify the exactly what colors were available for the 74-75 westies. A scan of the brochures whould probably end some of the confusion.

I've fallen out of the vw hobby a bit (still need to put an engine in my bus which has been engineless for 4 years now), so I haven't been discussing plaid/color issues like I did in the "old" days...

Unfortunately, Everett doesn't have the scans w/ color for the 74/75 Westies:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/type2_2.php

I've always wanted to buy all the brochures for 73-78 westies, but I'm a cheap ba$tard :D I only have the colors for 79 (my brochure) and 78 (Brad Clausen agreed to let be "borrow" his scan) on my website because I'm a believer in only using what you have access to (see Everett's disclaimer in the above link, I agree w/ it). I only bought the one for my 79 (forget the cost, but I want to say $20) from Walter Miller @ autolit.com (years ago). I don't know if he has any Westy brochures left...

Does Karl (aufever) post here anymore ?? He might even have the 74 or 75 brochures (or might at least know about the color codes and colors avail for 74/75). Some might want to pose this question to the volks on the type2.com list (I unsubbed years ago).

I know that Rich in RI painted Tony from CT bus a few years back, and vaguely remember Rich having a bitch of a time getting the paint for Tony's 75 Yosemite yellow bus. I almost want to say that he mentioned Ravenna, but that was from a brief conversation from 4-5 years ago.. I don't know if Rich is still on the type2.com list, but you might want to send a message asking if Rich from Westerly, RI knows about the yosemite/Ravenna deal. Here's a pic of Tony's repainted 75 that I took in 2003.

http://john-perry.com/cgi-bin/vwgallery.cgi?view=Buses_by_the_Mill_2003&photo=IM000517.jpg

Everett has Bali yellow listed here:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/colorstype2.php

And that looks alot like Yosemite yellow to me...

I'm wondering what the silver sticker behind the drivers seat on Poor Richard (team spatula) bus says... (It's nice to see some names I remember from the late 1990's, Hi Richard, thanks for the shirts :D ).

I see that Ratwell hasn't posted in this thread, but like me, he's a 2.0L westy guy :D I know very little about pre-1976 buses, but Ratwell is another source of info on all things westy.

I have a feeling that the Bali/Ravenna/Yosemite colors are all roughly the same color in slightly different shades. Without access to the original dealer brochures (or vwoa archived material), I don't know if we'll uncover the answer.

Sorry I couldn't be of any help with the 74/75 questions, but I think threads like this are important, since it might flush out the "truth". Hopefully we can find someone who has a 74 and 75 Campmobile brochure

P.S. Birdibus, thanks again for getting my bus mojo flowing again :D