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lovedavdubs Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:43 am

Iím looking for a set of decent speakers for my front door. I just dropped $250.00 on a new receiver and I really want to complement it. I don't have power windows and I am aware of the window crank clearance issue. Is inter-door depth an issue? Any speaker recommendations? Whatcha thumpin? 8)

riceye Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:50 am

GoWesty! has extensions for window cranks allowing bigger (deeper) speakers:http://www.gowesty.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Scre...-p-handles

Kind regards,
Ric

lovedavdubs Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:54 am

riceye wrote: GoWesty! has extensions for window cranks allowing bigger (deeper) speakers:http://www.gowesty.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Scre...-p-handles

Kind regards,
Ric

$34.95 :shock: I could probably make that. In fact the gears are already turning :twisted: Thanks for the quick response :wink:

mightyart Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:10 pm

I got a set of JBL two way speakers, but the speakers are seperated.the woofers are mounted to the doors in the kickpanels and the tweeters are mounted on the dash facing the listeners, this gives clearer sound, over 4" speakers aimed at your elbows.
like this but mine didn't cost this much.
http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-C608GTI-6-1-2-COMPONENTS-N...dZViewItem
tweeters:

woofer:

crossovers:

lovedavdubs Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:20 pm

Hmm I like the tweeter idea. But I'm reluctant to drill holes in the dash to fasten them. :roll: Yea I'm a bit ridiculous. Maybe I could do something like that on the ceiling. I wonder if those JBLs would fit up top next to the window crank. Thanks for the visuals Art. Man I canít wait until my stereo gets here. Iíve gone over two years with this crappy 24 year old stock system.

cheeseisgood Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:07 pm

use velcro or double sided tape :)

lovedavdubs Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:25 pm

cheeseisgood wrote: use velcro or double sided tape :)

Yea but you have to run the wires down through the dash to the stereo. I'm looking for a clean stock looking installation with no dangling wires and stuff. Velcro might work if the speakers were say...remote control :twisted: Now that would be cool 8) BUT, I'm trying to keep this job under $75.00.

amtjk Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:57 pm

Those tweeters are almost manditory in my opinion. You lose a huge amount of the high frequency sound when it is only firing out from the doors, because those frequencies are highly directional. The dash mounted tweeters will allow you to hear far more detail since they are aimed at your head.

Im mounting mine in the corner of the dash and windshield with double sided black tape. You can easily run the wires under the dash by going around and under, to the receiver. No wires, drilling or permanent buggery.

art

captainpartytime Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:11 pm

I didn't want to cut into the dash either so I opted for the air vent. I figured if I ever wanted to change them it was a lot cheaper than a new dash. I got this tweeter/mid system at http://www.crutchfield.com/ for $39.00 on clearance. No body wanted them because they were clear. I just painted the back of them with Krylon fusion and they turned out pretty good. I highly recommned component speakers if you can find a good deal!!!


vwjedi Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:00 am

I agree with the sound quality of separates, my Jetta had 9 speakers all in stock locations except the sub in the trunk. I had a set of Kicker 3.5 mid/highs that mounted in the upper dash and fired off the windshield......amazing sound! :shock: you could hear the guys talking in recording room on CD's.

Currently I am running all Rockford fosgate Amps and speakers with a Sony head unit running door speakers and rears. Remote control is a must when "chillin" in the back or laid out in bed.


I chose these Fosgates mainly because they fit the 4" holes and have tweeters, they aren't seperates but they sound purdy good. About $90 a pair. The jury is still out on the very modern/flashy look of them but I guess they jive with my silver van okay.



I just bought an extra set of window cranks and modified them ever so slightly by heating the metal on my gas stove top (didn't want to break out the torch :lol: ) and bent them out enough to clear the face. It works?


lovedavdubs Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:01 am

vwjedi wrote: I agree with the sound quality of separates, my Jetta had 9 speakers all in stock locations except the sub in the trunk. I had a set of Kicker 3.5 mid/highs that mounted in the upper dash and fired off the windshield......amazing sound! :shock: you could hear the guys talking in recording room on CD's.

Currently I am running all Rockford fosgate Amps and speakers with a Sony head unit running door speakers and rears. Remote control is a must when "chillin" in the back or laid out in bed.


I chose these Fosgates mainly because they fit the 4" holes and have tweeters, they aren't seperates but they sound purdy good. About $90 a pair. The jury is still out on the very modern/flashy look of them but I guess they jive with my silver van okay.



I just bought an extra set of window cranks and modified them ever so slightly by heating the metal on my gas stove top (didn't want to break out the torch :lol: ) and bent them out enough to clear the face. It works?



Very cool Jedi thanks for the input. The photo of the window crank is very helpful. I agree those speakers are a little bling, BUT I think you pull it off ok with the color match. I donít think there over the top. Hereís the stereo I got on eBay. Should be here be Tuesday or so.



Here's more
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/pictures.php?id=6308

vwjedi Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:12 pm

Lola will be pimpin. 8)

QDog Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:31 pm

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QDog Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:34 pm


lovedavdubs Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:35 pm

QDog wrote:

Nice! a little to flashy for Lola though :roll:

QDog Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:37 pm


wbx Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:00 pm

lovedavdubs wrote: Iím looking for a set of decent speakers for my front door. I just dropped $250.00 on a new receiver and I really want to complement it. I don't have power windows and I am aware of the window crank clearance issue. Is inter-door depth an issue? Any speaker recommendations? Whatcha thumpin? 8)

My system is a little overkill, and i would do it differently if i were to do it again. It includes cheapy pioneer 4" speakers in the stock locations with little capaciters to turn them into tweeters (camper w/o AC), 6.5" fancier (can't remember the brand... Infinity?) in the kick panels, and a pioneer 10" sub in the rear bench. I have an amp behind the glove box for all the 4s and 6.5s, and a separate amp in the rear bench running the sub.

It is a little bass heavy (need to tune the rear amp), and with the exception of the new speakers, is a totally clean install. You can't see any ghetto wiring. I'm happy with that part. If i were to do it again, I'd drop the sub, or at least hide it.

If you really want to improve your sound for not too much more money, you need to get bigger speakers. It really is necessary. Keeping the stock speakers and adding 6.5" guys will do the trick... I can't really overstate the importance of bigger speakers enough. They really fill out the sound.

As for window crank clearance, I also just bent the crank arm a little bit. No problem. You also want to check for dash clearance. Sorry i don't have pictures, but with conservative looking speakers, it looks pretty clean and not all blingy.

-Damon

wolfsburged Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:12 pm

QDog wrote:

Where did you get the add on panel which holds the 6x9? It looks good!

msinabottle Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:25 pm

Winston has two 6 x 9" speakers in his lower bench seat, Photons. They're disconnected. There are two two-speaker set ups over the bed, and speakers in either front door.

Should I pull them and patch the holes? Should I get good ones and rig my 100W Pioneer amp to power them, if it's possible? Should I put in Sub-woofers, or something?

Ideas appreciated!

Best!

QDog Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:08 pm

Wolfsburged,

I found them on Ebay Germany.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Doorboards-VW-Bus-T2-T3-fuer-Bo...dZViewItem

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