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Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:37 pm

Type 3 Sep - 64

Only if you have VW2 means type 3 early single or dual carbs
the numbers below is the date sample Dec-63
also have
July-64
Sep-64
Jun-63 and more
I have the time and the parts to show
a few tricks to rebuilt a Early Fuel Pump

this is my way and some times books won't say
what are you going to see
just the most important steps

Pictures will do the talking

Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:46 pm

top and bottom Nice and Flat

Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:47 am

Brass Coating type 3 - wire thickness 1.6 mm
Silver Coating type 1 and 2 - wire thickness 1.5 mm

ALL look the SAME but
ONLY the first 3 are 311 diaphragms with Rubber at the bottom
the others four have TWO piece plastic mean Repro 113
and won't work I will tell you why even they are Brass Coating

Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:15 am

Left diaphragm 311 nice spacing and level

Right diaphragm 113 tight and leans to one side

Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:42 am

for parts
Complete kit 311 198 553
Diaphragm Only 311 127 141
you can use the Diapragm ONLY from the 311 198 555

they are Available out there
I seen them ALL the time
take your time when you LOOK at Samba, Swapmeets and ASK

Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:24 am

Clean Nice and Flat Top Half

Line up ALL 6 screws
DO NOT TIGHT YET
before you place the side cover fill it with GREASE
around the LEVER

I made my own Fuel Pump GAUGE 14 mm high point ROD

this Set Up EQUALS position 1st Cylinder Dead Center and your
ROD should be on the highest point 14 mm
Install Fuel Pump and Tight ALL 6 screws
Type 3 MAX Pressure 4.2

NOW start PRAYING it should work

for a QUICK respond blow some GAS in the fuel pump
you are Welcome to correct me if I'm wrong on any step

It's 3 am pacific time I'm going to sleeeeeeep NOW

thanks Pedro

Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:16 am

Thanks Pedro. Looks like you're enjoying your vacation.

Sat Jun 20, 2009 8:46 am

Thanks Pedro
You could have done this a week ago and saved me some grief :wink:
I just put mine together last week with the universal kit and it doesn't work :roll:

Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:07 am

Just do like I do... Send it to pedro with some cash to rebuild your Fuel Pump. Pedro is one of the World's best resource for early Type-3s. There will be women who name their Children after him; besides his wife. :lol:

Excellent Tutorial Pedro... Topics like these, are the reason The Samba and Sambanistas are so great!

Bob

Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:11 am

I rebuild them also.

Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:29 am

Pedro is the man about rebuilding these fuel pumps. No one is better with time and precission. He has already done a couple for me. He is the best........

Fri Jul 08, 2011 7:12 pm

just so this post don't get LOST again :)

Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:56 pm

pedro sainz wrote: just so this post don't get LOST again :)

I bookmarked this for that very reason. :D

Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:43 pm

jimmynotch wrote: pedro sainz wrote: just so this post don't get LOST again :)

I bookmarked this for that very reason. :D

Did you find one yet?

Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:50 pm

pedro sainz wrote: just so this post don't get LOST again :)

This is the sort of thing that belongs in that repository of lost Type 3 knowledge we were talking about awhile back...

Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:15 pm

You mean the thread Tram started that became a Baywindow bus forum style yelling match about stock versus non-stock?

Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:06 pm

Yeah, that's the one. :D

Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:15 pm

Finally got the pump rebuilt and it leaks gas out from between the diaphram and the two halves very bad. Dangerous to say the least. Pedro's write up said nothing about using gasket sealer (GasketCinch / Permatex / etc). Do I need to use some?

EDIT/UPDATE: Pedro just called me and confirmed that NO GASKET SEALANT is to be used. Also, he confirmed that the reason my pump was leaking is because I did not resurface the two halves of the pump. In his write-up he used a file to get them flat and shiny, I used a thick peice of glass and some 220 sand paper. Same results, and it worked well. Thanks Pedro!

Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:28 pm

The mating surfaces of the two pump halves can get a bit warped. Did you try to flatten them before reassembly?

Edit: it seems I was too slow. Glad you got it taken care of.

Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:38 pm

snj wrote: The mating surfaces of the two pump halves can get a bit warped. Did you try to flatten them before reassembly?

Edit: it seems I was too slow. Glad you got it taken care of.

By taking a flat board-putting some fine grit sand paper on it and running the mating surfaces till smooth. After the fist couple of passes you should look at ti and see if it was truly warped by seeing the high ends hit first.

But why am I telling you all this. I thought you were some high end hoity toity carpenter kind of douch :roll:

:lol: