TheSamba.com :: View topic - Need some help on replacing power steering lines please?

Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:34 pm

hippiepilot wrote: Going through this ordeal myself and was wonder how the hoses from Bus Depot hook up to the power steering pump. http://www.busdepot.com/251498100 Do you still need the "bango" connector as well as low press side hose or do these hoses hook up directly to the pump itself.

Go to Parker Hose with the above info, get the hose and a half hour later the job will be done!

Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:46 pm

So it does replace this hose

and this one

Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:22 pm

Timwhy wrote: Got the new power steering hose plus fittings today. Installed in about an hour,

You made a very good wage if you did it in an hour. just this month, I had my power steering lines replaced. I supplied the kit from Greg Kroll (iceracer) and they told me the kit was very nicely done. San Diego Westy installed them for me. The gas tank was completely out of the Doka, as it was being replaced.

The line for the job of replacing the hoses, supplied by me, says "Remove existing power steering lines and replace with customer-suppliede after market kit. 492.50 That charge was for that one procedure only.

You could say I am crestfallen. :(

Chuey

Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:58 am

Finished installing busdepot lines last weekend. Was a really easy install. Did not replace the banjo line as it wasn't leaking. Also busdepot does not list the lines for a 1984 but they fit just the same.

Note that there were a couple of male threaded adapters that came with the lines that I did not end up using. Not sure if these are needed on the later year models or not, but I didn't need them on mine.

Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:46 pm

All of this info is so helpful. Just dropped the fuel tank to replace it and the lines to find out power steering lines were just as bad. Hitting the Parker distributor tomorrow and not sure on the low pressure fittings. I read about using 1/2" line to go over with clamps, but does anyone know the Parker fittings for the low pressure line to tie into rack and also pump? (TimWhy) has awesome picks of the rack. Just not sure on the hose size along with the fittings. Thanks.

Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:45 am

Both hoses are 3/8"

Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:34 pm

I am going to pull the old lines out of my syncro this weekend or next and replace. Are there any tricky sections to of old line to get out or can it all be cut out pretty easy?

Thinking that I will just go to Parker and have them built.

Fri Mar 21, 2014 5:23 pm

dkonzy wrote: I am going to pull the old lines out of my syncro this weekend or next and replace. Are there any tricky sections to of old line to get out or can it all be cut out pretty easy?

Thinking that I will just go to Parker and have them built.

I still have sections of steel lines still in place in my Westy. Unless they are in the way, there really isn't a need to remove them?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:52 am

Creativemind wrote:

For Straight Fittings:
Metric Fitting: #1C343-10-6 (2) - This is what I used for PSPump & Rack connections works great.

For a curved 90˚ rack fitting use the following:
Parker #10691N-6-6 crimp swivel nut coupler to attach hose to Parker Metric swivel adapter 6-10L HXU86-S (confirm with Parker Dealer as I did not use this setup myself)*

Hose:
Hose # Parket 302/301-6 (Rubber 3/8th" core with Steel Braided Shell and Tough Wrap Exterior)

Length:
High Pressure - 11.5' long

Does the hose need to be any longer if you're gonna use a straight fitting instead of a 90 degree fitting at the rack ?

Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:39 am

jimimeg wrote: Creativemind wrote:

For Straight Fittings:
Metric Fitting: #1C343-10-6 (2) - This is what I used for PSPump & Rack connections works great.

For a curved 90˚ rack fitting use the following:
Parker #10691N-6-6 crimp swivel nut coupler to attach hose to Parker Metric swivel adapter 6-10L HXU86-S (confirm with Parker Dealer as I did not use this setup myself)*

Hose:
Hose # Parket 302/301-6 (Rubber 3/8th" core with Steel Braided Shell and Tough Wrap Exterior)

Length:
High Pressure - 11.5' long

Does the hose need to be any longer if you're gonna use a straight fitting instead of a 90 degree fitting at the rack ?

You'll still have plenty of hose but you can always add a couple of inches to be safe

Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:03 pm

Timwhy wrote:

You'll still have plenty of hose but you can always add a couple of inches to be safe

Tim, you used a 90 degree fiiting, do you think it's any better than a straight fitting ?

Thanks for your help
Jimi

Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:08 pm

I don't see what difference it would make using either? The end result is what's important!

Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:16 pm

Thanks so much for all of this info! I am curious what the collective experience is with rebuilding vs buying a rebuilt (resealed) PS pump.

My pump itself is leaking badly, but seems to be pumping just fine. What I DONT want to have happen is buy the rebuild kit, open in up to find out that the impeller is damaged or something.

Worth forking over for a new one or are these things built rugged and just needing seals?

Thanks!

Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:57 am

So,
after trolling this for a while I went to my local NAPA and got hoses made. He had to order in the gates fittings, but had them next day. For the high pressure hose I used #G25645-0610 at both ends. I used 12' of high pressure because i wasn't sure if 11.5 would do it without a 90 degree fitting. 11.5' would've worked just fine and been easier to install. I actually ran fluid through the HP hose prior to bolting it on, to save bleeding time.

For the low pressure return line I just used hosed clamps. I wanted to use a fitting at the rack end, but it was $15 for that one fitting. I figured if its a hose clamp at one end, it'll do at the other end. If you want to use the $15 fitting for the low pressure return, it is #G25645-0612.

Thanks for all your help Sambans! :lol:
Jimi

Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:22 am

I was a bit nervous about just a hose clamp off the rack on the return side I made this up. Seems to love its new life.

Mon Jul 28, 2014 3:18 pm

I just purchased busdepot.com kit...will let you know how it goes.[/youtube]

Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:44 pm

My lines just started leaking badly. I was 45 miles from the nearest town and 10 miles from the nearest paved road. I probably shouldn't be out in the middle of now where by myself in a 28 year old van..... but it is why I bought it. Luckily I had a quart of ATF and was able to limp back to town and then get back to PDX checking frequently.

My question: Bus Depot's kit is 180 bucks for both lines. Seems like they did the work that previous people where having to craft on their own. Are these really a "Rack to Pump" replacement kit?

FalcorWesty: Was this the kit you used to replace your lines?

As always, I appreciate the wisdom of this group in helping me muddle through the maintaince and improvment of my beloved van.

Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:19 am

PDX_Guy wrote: Are these really a "Rack to Pump" replacement kit?

This was my question as well but I need them, and to run around making my own with a chance of getting it wrong to save $50 was not worth it. My only concern now is the 3/8 hose it quite larger than the metal tubing and hope I do not run into a problem running the lines forward. If I need the additional connector lines then I need them, but my orignals seem to be in good shape. Fingers crossed.

Mon May 04, 2015 11:54 am

Vanagon1991:
How did the bus depot lines work? Were they front to back complete for your rig? I'm next it seems since my lines are leaking...

Mon May 04, 2015 12:21 pm

Absolutely perfect...note I do not have a sycro, so after trying to squeeze the larger OD hose lines up along right side of gas tank where originals were as it was pretty tight...i instead ran them down he center of the tank where the syncro drive shaft would normally run, then continued back along support rail to normal position of original lines.

Reached and works perfect but I have only been out a few times on the road since install. Was careful to idle engine and turn wheel back and forth to maximum position. Pump was noisy for a bit but then quieted up once air was removed from system with a few more turns. Make sure to keep reservoir filled when doing so. Two people is best.

I did double up on hose clamps on the connection to the stock reservoir hose. For some reason there is a smooth female connection on the end of hose...not sure why versus a ribbed connector for better grip. I am not a mechanic so forgive my ignorance on why.

It would have cost me hours to build this from scratch and wonder if I got it right...not worth the savings in $ for me. Good luck!