TheSamba.com :: View topic - Need some help on replacing power steering lines please?

Mon May 04, 2015 12:24 pm

and yes...did not need any extra parts for this 1991 install

Mon May 25, 2015 1:19 pm

A question.

The original PS lines were obviously steel pioe and passed through small holes in the body structure. The replacement hose is bigger.

How do you feed the hoses to the rear?

I'd hate to hang their weight on the main heater pipe.

I got the BusDepot ones that follow the metal pipe path and fasten onto the rack straight on.

Edit:
Well...... DUH!!!!! Try before you ask David!!!!

The hoses fit sweetly through the frame hole......

And go right to the original metal pipe hanger!

Dave

Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:04 am

Just had some lines made up at local hydraulic line co. Cost $155 and took me 1 hr to install! They are construction grade and should last a lifetime! I got 11.5' for each and they fit perfectly, fuel tank was already out which made it easier, hardest part was removing old rusty lines. Thanks to everyone here for all your great information on how to do this!

Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:57 pm

So I guess. I am a bit slow. I have about 2.5 hrs in removing the old lines the same again to install.

The local hydraulic shop had the right metric size fittings, but the seat/seal was the incorrect profile and hence wouldn't seal properly. They reused my fittings.

In doing so, I have a single 12'6" hose that goes from the rack and terminates in the banjo fitting.(edit: this detail appears to have created extra noise in my system due to eliminating a restrictor fitting that was in the line just off the banjo fitting)

The 2 fittings at the rack were bent at 90 and reused. Here is the low pressure return line:

Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:01 pm

A mistake I made was to get both ends bent the same length. One should have been a tighter bend to nest inside the other. Didn't think of this until I went to install them and they interfered with one another. I was able to rotate one up and the other down and they just barely fit.

I was worried about rubbing so in a few spots I cut open some 1/2" hose and used it as a rub strip, zap strapped in place.

$111 all in.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:33 am

i bought the bus depot hoses, they fit through all the holes in the van perfectly
i must admit i was surprised, but i am happy with how they went in

Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:48 am

I also had to go over low spot in the gas tank as I could not remove the old lines where they ran above it. I think my new lines would have been too fat. Maybe the bus depot are smaller diameter? I used 3/8 and 1/2 I.d.

Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:34 am

rubbachicken wrote: i bought the bus depot hoses, they fit through all the holes in the van perfectly
i must admit i was surprised, but i am happy with how they went in

Really?
What path did you take for your hoses?
I followed the metal pipe path and fell several inches short of my goal.
I sourced a short length of hose for the return line and had to run the pressure line off the pump differently to make the connection.

I must have jigged when I should have jogged somewhere along the journey!

Dave

Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:05 am

Rubba installed the BD lines in a Syncro.
The Syncro doesn't have the fuel tank up front.
The different front cross member may allow the new rubber hoses to make an earlier turn toward the back of the van.

Mark

Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:33 pm

No disrespect intended, but the bleeding instructions found earlier in this thread didnotwork for me. I used theBentley procedure after and found it easier and more effective:

I should say that even after all of this, my PS is a bit growly. Maybe the pump was damaged somewhere along the line... I guess a pressure test is in order?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:04 pm

junichi wrote: No disrespect intended, but the bleeding instructions found earlier in this thread didnotwork for me. I used theBentley procedure after and found it easier and more effective:

I should say that even after all of this, my PS is a bit growly. Maybe the pump was damaged somewhere along the line... I guess a pressure test is in order?

Do you have the original VW high pressure hose connected to the pump?
They have a flow reducing fitting in them that reduces PS noise.

Dave

Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:16 pm

Yes, his new hose in the photo replaces both the rigid pressure pipe and the stock pump pressure hose. Lots of people who thought they would replace the stock pressure hose come to find out that there is a new noise. The old stock hose had a restriction device in it to reduce the noise.

Mark

djkeev wrote: junichi wrote: .....
I should say that even after all of this, my PS is a bit growly. Maybe the pump was damaged somewhere along the line... I guess a pressure test is in order?

Do you have the original VW high pressure hose connected to the pump?
They have a flow reducing fitting in them that reduces PS noise.

Dave

Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:22 pm

crazyvwvanman wrote: Yes, his new hose in the photo replaces both the rigid pressure pipe and the stock pump pressure hose. Lots of people who thought they would replace the stock pressure hose come to find out that there is a new noise. The old stock hose had a restriction device in it to reduce the noise.

Mark

djkeev wrote: junichi wrote: .....
I should say that even after all of this, my PS is a bit growly. Maybe the pump was damaged somewhere along the line... I guess a pressure test is in order?

Do you have the original VW high pressure hose connected to the pump?
They have a flow reducing fitting in them that reduces PS noise.

Dave

Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have just found your noise!

Hopefully you've still got the old hose with the restrictor fitting in it?

"In doing so, I have a single 12'6" hose that goes from the rack and terminates in the banjo fitting."

Dave

Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:56 pm

Thanks, Dave. I am guessing that piece is in the trash at the hydraulic shop. I had originally asked for that last piece to be retained. But when I showed up it was gone.. I guess he figured he did me a favor by eliminating a joint. I don't really want to pull it all apart now... Is there any harm in it, other than a bit of noise?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:59 pm

Yep.... Noise.
This is where you say "oh crap!" :shock:

GoWesty sold the short high pressure hose without the restrictor for awhile. There was a lot of chatter about it on here.
I don't recall if there was a work around but I'll look for a link.

Dave

Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:14 pm

Okay, well, lesson learned and hopefully an educational tool for others. I will go back and edit my original post just in case. If the only known issue is noise, I can live with that. Hey, I drive a Transporter and a 64 kombi...I am use to more than a little noise!

Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:23 pm

Any advice for a 2.2 Subie Conversion?I have coolant lines out and the original hard PS lines on my Syncro look all of their age. Low pressure line should be easy but I would imagine the rack end is stock VW fitting while the Subie Fitting at the pump is naturally a Subaru fitting - anyone have part numbers or other? Might as well do the the power steering lines, cheap repair!

Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:38 pm

I see that SmallCar already has the high pressure line kit for 95.00 - a good deal I think!

Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:46 pm

Ummm, double checking, looks like the SmallCar Kit connects to the hard original line which I would like to get rid of so . . . back to the drawing board.

Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:11 am

the bus depot hoses have straight ends on them, i thought they'd be too short with the straight ends, i think it helped, the 90° ends would have made the hoses too short