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Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:47 pm

Braukuche wrote: campingbox wrote: BarryL wrote: Intriguing. How do you check run out without the pilot bearing?

The mainshaft bearings are in place. That is where the input shaft seal goes. It doesn't support anything.

BarryL wrote: Nice pattern. Is the grease with the more forward mark the decelerate side?

I forget. I would have to look at it again and watch things move. That's the first time I've ever set up a new R&P. I'm sure someone who does this every day can answer that question better.

Never done that work, I though I was being ballsy pulling the center section out of my 356 and taking it in to be inspected. Impressive work Greg.

Thanks, it was a lot of fun. I'm sure I'll do it again next time. Reading through the book the first time gave me a headache. Now it makes sense. It's just all basic algebra, measure a ton of pieces and write out the formula and figure out what shims to use. Or do it all by feel which is how our buddy Gary likes to do it because he can get the job done faster that way. I think the grease contact pattern is really only used when setting up a new ring and pinion, and that is because the measurements will only get you in the ballpark, you really gotta see how the two gears talk to each other.

Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:21 pm

Hopefully, this is all a sign it will be rolling soon, and you’ll post pics of it or even a video of it running around. Waiting not so patiently here :)

Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:28 am

Keep up the good work Greg I think I have reread your build several times and it's always like the first time, a refreshing look at my favorite year.

Greg what is the build date?

Best factory color combo ever.

Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:49 am

campingbox wrote: BarryL wrote: campingbox wrote: BarryL wrote: Intriguing. How do you check run out without the pilot bearing?

The mainshaft bearings are in place. That is where the input shaft seal goes. It doesn't support anything.
I hear ya but I meant the flywheel pilot bearing. I thought that part of the mainshaft unscrewed with the sliding sleeve and was separate and dangly.

That wobbly thing with the little screw and sleeve started with the tunnel type transmissions. Maybe to reduce noise? Those are a lot easier and faster to take apart and rebuild.

The splitcase transmissions are one solid shaft end to end:

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1708104.jpg

If first gear or second gear gets chewed up (they almost always are) you have to replace that whole piece to fix it.
Dang me, take a rope and hang me! Thanks for straightening me out (pun intended).

I checked the http://oacdp.org to see wtf before I posted first and it showed, "tunnel case gears", "synchromesh gears", as the same solid shaft so I figured they just didn't draw it in. "Fully synchronized gears" shows it which makes sense.

Carry on with the bitchen' build.

Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:46 pm

LAGrunthaner wrote: Keep up the good work Greg I think I have reread your build several times and it's always like the first time, a refreshing look at my favorite year.

Greg what is the build date?

Thanks!

October 7th 1955 according to the birth certificate from the auto museum.

Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:31 am

Your twin?
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:05 pm

Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:56 pm

LAGrunthaner wrote: Your twin?
http://www.benpon.nl/index.php/line-up

Cool photo!

That particular bus started out as a double door panel.

Windows, subhatch, etc, are all more recent additions. It has a '59-61 So-23 kit in it now.

I would expect my bus or Jim's bus is where he got the inspiration for the colors.

Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:37 pm

Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:40 pm

:shock:

Nice update! I think I saw on Joe Ruiz’s site....there’s an Okrasa motor for this, correct?

Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:46 am

Oh boy, here we go!! Thanks for the update!

Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:11 am

Thanks a ton Clara! Stunning absolutely stunning and super cool not to show the entire bus so we can continue eating popcorn for this show. :popcorn:

Clara wrote:

Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:13 am

I'd been saving these VW logo axle boots for this project:

One of them split during install. That's a bit of a downer. I ended up using one of the NOS ones and one new one from WW. Wonder which one will leak first?

Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:18 am

Got the trans mostly together on the stand.

Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:21 am

And then my buddy Alex (50ate) helped me stuff it into the bus. Bumper off, shift rod in, trans in.

Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:42 am

gunna be awesome when you go flying through your first huge mud puddle on the Shasta snow trip!!

Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:49 am

Looks great! I love this build.
At least the boot split now... and not 20 miles down the road.

Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:56 pm

You Small Nut guys make me jealous on the RGB install part.

Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:16 pm

Are the plates necessary to hold the axles out for a split-case transmission?

Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:01 pm

StockNazi wrote: Are the plates necessary to hold the axles out for a split-case transmission?

Axles in you mean? No, as far as I know the fulcrum plates can't slip behind on a splitcase.