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Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:00 pm

yes wood floor. using Aluminium panels is not that easy, because body panels are structural elements on a bus and if using proper gauge aluminium, you cant lose that much weight. Plan on using alu rather on the roof for looks. A lot of the interior I want to build with light modern foam panel and use bonding and modern RV sandwich methods, while retaining or replicating old looks.

mandraks wrote:
cool. Wood floor?

I always wondered how much weight aluminum body panels would save.

I follow Chris Runge from Runge cars on Youtube.

https://rungecars.com/

cargo door skins, roof panel, even the long side panel. anything on the inside could be aluminum very easily.

I will be paying close attention!

removing frozen hinge pins and screws by the dozens it seems. while revealing some og paint on the 1952 drivers door.

Got some neat parts form the UK, just in time for the 5 o clock tea ! :D

the floor bracket with the bolt holes was a bit off in orientation, but was able to adjust and twist the stand tube in the vice. otherwise very accurate and top quality footrest !

slowly getting to the real coachbuild part of the project ! :wink:

loving the look of the 16s. It's that Vintage Märklin toy bus look. ride height is the approx 4" off the ground like this. with a few tweaks I might be able to get it to a 1"clearance static drop for shows and could be laying frame with 145/15 or 5.00 15.
theory. :lol:

Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:31 pm

Blimey! What an update! Those doors are amazing, will the og paint form part of the final bus?

I’m loving the work on those arches

What’s the height of the top of the arch from the floor please?

Cheers. Dave

Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:53 pm

thx Dave. the inner clearance from the ground now is a little over 700mms. the tubs are approx 140mm above the outer dogleg edge ( which forms the door gap), so ca 110mm above original seat pedestal.
The tubs are laid out so the wheels will have full steering at legal ride height (110mm from lower frame to floor). I do not tub the doors for full steering @ lower ride, because I want to keep them original. Remember I am using quite tall bias ply tires. so the steering will be compromised at a static full drop, but the tires would still be free and some manouvering possible at static shows.

yes I am thinking of keeping as much og paint on the interior panels as possible. the old coachbuilds like the KRSS also had plenty of og paint inside, even if they were repainted a different color outside.

Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:46 pm

djfordmanjack wrote: yes wood floor. using Aluminium panels is not that easy, because body panels are structural elements on a bus and if using proper gauge aluminium, you cant lose that much weight. Plan on using alu rather on the roof for looks. A lot of the interior I want to build with light modern foam panel and use bonding and modern RV sandwich methods, while retaining or replicating old looks.
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slowly getting to the real coachbuild part of the project ! :wink:

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loving the look of the 16s. It's that Vintage Märklin toy bus look. ride height is the approx 4" off the ground like this. with a few tweaks I might be able to get it to a 1"clearance static drop for shows and could be laying frame with 145/15 or 5.00 15.
theory. :lol:

Nice job on the wheeltubs!

well, i am a bit of a tire nerd....
how about using 14s?
Excelsior makes a 23.75 inch diameter 5.00/520x14 bias ply tire. that is another half inch smaller than a 145/15 or a 5.00/15
BF Goodrich makes a 5.60/14 with a 24.6 inch diameter, and it carries 900 pounds at 30psi same as a 145/15 radial and 200 pounds more than a 500/15

just throwing it out there, just for the shows where every millimeter counts?

I just love the look of bias plies. For every day commute radials are probably more durable and cheaper. i would still rock the 16s

and yes, i do believe a Bavarian S3/6 is a beautiful thing. Always been more of a Roco man myself ;) biggest wheels ever.

Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:50 am

thanx for the great info on the higher load rating of the 14" tires! I didn't even think of that, because its usually what breaks the deal for me on buses, but yes, come to think of it, VW also went to 14" wheels becuase of wider tread and higher load rating for the 1000kg payload buses in 1963 (?) IIRC ?!
Not what I prefer, but definitely a good alternative if original tire choice fails in diameter or load.
the blue Roco steam engine is awesome.
Referring to the 'Märklin' look I meant the typical well played tin cars of the 1950s, which tend to get closer to the ground, the more kids stomp on them.... :D

Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:43 pm

achieving the Märklin Look. :D

:idea: :arrow:

Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:04 pm

Marklin was head of its time on the modern look... :D

Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:28 pm

Unbelievable build, Günter! =D>

Never ever i would have believed that the remains of the half chassis could be used again. I am very glad that not all bus welding magicians are based in UK - and we also have one here in Austria! ;)

Weiter so!

Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:22 am

AustroBus wrote: Unbelievable build, Günter! =D>

Never ever i would have believed that the remains of the half chassis could be used again. I am very glad that not all bus welding magicians are based in UK - and we also have one here in Austria! ;)

Weiter so! l

Same here.
when i saw this in the beginning i thought,there is another project that never gonna happen.
But damn,was i wrong.
Looking forward to the end result.......in a month of two. :D

Henk!!!

Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:43 am

Thank you very much guys ! 8)
your motivation is much appreciated!

Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:39 am

Herrlich!
I love how they looks! That's one of my favourite combination, ride high/wheel/tire combination.

That's custom, awesome build. I am very excited how the seating comfort is. Great to see other ways to do it.

I am very busy at the moment, but it's definitely time to visit you.

Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:18 pm

thank you M. !
Let me know when you are coming to Graz again, I'll make sure to give you the full Barndoor tour.... :D

Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:20 pm

Love this build!

This is where it just gets so cool... 8)

Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:43 pm

Great work. Damn that looks so mean!!! =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:58 pm

Thank you guys! summer was busy outside mostly, but now that fall is coming and winter is usually the time I spend tinkering with this project, so hopefully some updates soon. Here's a quick teaser of things to come. :D

Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:04 pm

It’s always great to see updates on this thread - thanks 😊 I’m looking forward to seeing the new season progress!

Cheers. Dave

Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:49 am

I couldn't agree more.
Sweet.

bally wrote: It’s always great to see updates on this thread - thanks 😊 I’m looking forward to seeing the new season progress!

Cheers. Dave

Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:27 pm

very nice fab works :shock:

Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:59 am

Awesome build thread. I enjoyed every page sir! 8)

Sat Dec 18, 2021 12:27 pm

Thats soo nice. Gunter, i realy love your build!