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Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:55 am

Can anyone help me identify this distributor? I have searched this site and the internet and I can't find any info. There is perhaps an obvious answer but I was wondering what replacement cap, rotor and points to use/buy. The dizzy is fitted to a 1969 122 industrial engine which is running very happily in my '61 Beetle.

Thanks
Steve

Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:17 am

The "211" in the part number indicates its for a Type 2. I don't have a listing but I do for a "111" which is for a Type 1.

I would "assume" it uses the same tune up parts.

Points: 01 011
Condensor: 02 021
Rotor: 04 033
Cap: 03 010

Timing Set At:: 0deg TDC @ 800-950rpm w/strobe w/vacuum hose disconnected and plugged

Does the inside look like this?

Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:01 am

Glenn wrote: The "211" in the part number indicates its for a Type 2. I don't have a listing but I do for a "111" which is for a Type 1.

I would "assume" it uses the same tune up parts.

Points: 01 011
Condensor: 02 021
Rotor: 04 033
Cap: 03 010

Timing Set At:: 0deg TDC @ 800-950rpm w/strobe w/vacuum hose disconnected and plugged

Does the inside look like this?

Thanks Glenn, I did see the 111 part reference but didn't realise the number definitions. Yes the distributor looks the same inside.

Thanks
Steve

Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:50 am

I would assume the tune up parts are the same and the timing is the same.

Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:22 am

I think the 111 905 205 AA was a replacement distributor for the 113 905 205 M or T.

Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:26 am

Pruneman99 wrote: I think the 111 905 205 AA was a replacement distributor for the 113 905 205 M or T.
69 Type 1 Autostick, but very close to the 205M/T

Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:58 am

Glenn wrote: Pruneman99 wrote: I think the 111 905 205 AA was a replacement distributor for the 113 905 205 M or T.
69 Type 1 Autostick, but very close to the 205M/T

Ah, well there ya go. Nice info

Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:20 pm

113 905 205AA is the autostick one, 111 905 205AA is early 70s 1200

which carb are you running? I would check with a timing light how much adavance you are getting

Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:51 pm

Slow 1200 wrote: 113 905 205AA is the autostick one, 111 905 205AA is early 70s 1200

which carb are you running? I would check with a timing light how much adavance you are getting

Is that question to me? I’m running a 28PCI, forgive me for my lack of knowledge, in this instance do I need to know what advance I’m getting? Up to now I’ve had no issues with the set-up I just wanted to know what spare parts I needed as I was putting together a spare parts kit to keep in the car.

Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:53 am

yes, it would not hurt to make sure you are getting full advance, it takes 30 seconds and could save you a ton of money in the long run :lol:

Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:45 pm

Hi Steve, the 211 905 205 AA is a pretty rare distributor especially here in the states.

There is some information being presented above that is not correct so hold off on buying tune up bits just yet!

I've seen specifications for the 211 AA but it was not on the internet. The Bosch #0 231 156 007 reveals that this is a unique distributor, there are no other "156" used with VW's. It's unlikely to be using tune up parts like those on the 111 AA and its not at all like a 113 AA autostick unless it's an SVDA distributor. The rotor part # is not one listed as for VW. A pic from a bit farther away showing the vacuum canister might lead to a more accurate answer.

Glenn's pic of a distributor interior is a bit too generic as it could easily be a 111 or 113 distributor interior or even an early SVDA for the neophyte. Tune up parts varries for each one of these.

Usually the 28 PCI carburetor is matched to a cast iron distributor not an aluminum bodied one. Are you sure it's not a 28 PICT carburetor?

Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:15 pm

It's a bit blurry in the rotor pic, but I'm seeing a 28 PCI in the background.

Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:11 pm

tasb wrote: Hi Steve, the 211 905 205 AA is a pretty rare distributor especially here in the states.

There is some information being presented above that is not correct so hold off on buying tune up bits just yet!

I've seen specifications for the 211 AA but it was not on the internet. The Bosch #0 231 156 007 reveals that this is a unique distributor, there are no other "156" used with VW's. It's unlikely to be using tune up parts like those on the 111 AA and its not at all like a 113 AA autostick unless it's an SVDA distributor. The rotor part # is not one listed as for VW. A pic from a bit farther away showing the vacuum canister might lead to a more accurate answer.

Glenn's pic of a distributor interior is a bit too generic as it could easily be a 111 or 113 distributor interior or even an early SVDA for the neophyte. Tune up parts varries for each one of these.

Usually the 28 PCI carburetor is matched to a cast iron distributor not an aluminum bodied one. Are you sure it's not a 28 PICT carburetor?

Thanks for the info! Yes the carb is definitely a 28PCI. The engine is a 1969 122 Industrial engine and I don't much else about it. It was fitted to my '61 Beetle when I bought it. I've attached a picture for reference.

Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:24 am

It has a tall cap on a short body like the 113 905 205T distributor. Maybe look for tune up parts that fit that one?

Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:44 am

Pruneman99 wrote: It has a tall cap on a short body like the 113 905 205T distributor. Maybe look for tune up parts that fit that one?
that's what i said a number of posts ago.

Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:40 pm

With that added pic I would agree with Pruneman and Glenn on tune up parts. There are two vacuum canisters of the period that are exactly the same size and shape with no part numbers on them so follow slow1200's advice on timing. One canister delivers 32 degrees of advance (80 mm/Hg) and the other around 25 degrees (65mm/Hg).

Normally that distributor and carburetor are a mismatch. Might have been assembled that way at the factory for an stationary industrial engine. For even better performance I'd either change to a 30 PICT carburetor and keep the distributor or find a VJU 4 BR 8 distributor (12 degrees of advance @ 270mm/Hg) and keep the carburetor for the street.

Changing to the later carburetor would "look" more correct. You might have to verify that the carburetor clears the voltage regulator housing.

Thu Jun 13, 2019 3:41 pm

tasb wrote: With that added pic I would agree with Pruneman and Glenn on tune up parts. There are two vacuum canisters of the period that are exactly the same size and shape with no part numbers on them so follow slow1200's advice on timing. One canister delivers 32 degrees of advance (80 mm/Hg) and the other around 25 degrees (65mm/Hg).

Normally that distributor and carburetor are a mismatch. Might have been assembled that way at the factory for an stationary industrial engine. For even better performance I'd either change to a 30 PICT carburetor and keep the distributor or find a VJU 4 BR 8 distributor (12 degrees of advance @ 270mm/Hg) and keep the carburetor for the street.

Changing to the later carburetor would "look" more correct. You might have to verify that the carburetor clears the voltage regulator housing.

Thanks all for your help and advice :)

Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:01 am

Well I'm late to the party, but I would like to add the correct tuneup data for this particular distributor.

211 905 205 AA
Bosch 0 231 156 001 or 0 231 156 002
This is the only 0 231 156 ... style distributor.
It was released for production in 12.72
JUD indicates, that it originally had a rev limiting rotor which was replaced by a previous owner (you don't need the rev limitation)

points: 1 237 013 057 = VW 111 998 063
condenser: 1 237 330 222 = VW 113 905 295 D; wire length 190mm
rotor: 1 234 332 192 = VW 211 905 225 B; rev limited to 4500rpm; can be replaced with 1 234 332 215 (no rev limiter, no dust shield groove) or 1 234 332 107 = VW 113 905 225 E (no rev limiter, dust shield groove) or 1 234 332 109 = VW 059 905 225 (no rev limiter, dust shield groove)
cap: 1 235 522 193 = VW 113 905 207 B; can be replaced by 1 235 522 056 = VW 113 905 207 C
vacuum: 1 237 121 400 = VW 111 905 271 C

Like Glenn already correctly assumed, this distributor is almost the same as the 111 905 205 AA and should therefore share the same curve. I think I recently posted the curve about this 111 AA distributor in another thread.
The only difference is the stock rotor.

Wed Jul 10, 2019 6:44 am

When looking for tuneup parts. This chart is informative.

http://www.aircooled.net/ignition-tune-up-distributor-parts-chart/