Facet fuel pump problem

[GARRICKCLARK]

Hi guys.
the problem i'm having is with a facet pump on a 2ltr type 4 motor.I think it might be airlocking.
when the engine is running the pump goes from being quiet running(pulling fuel from the tank,pushing fuel foward to the carbs)then to being noisy.(no fuel being drawn from tank, no fuel to the carbs.engine then cuts out.if i remove a petrol pipe from the pump it seams to right it self for a while,then goes back to being a noisy-quiet (intermitant pump)

Does any one possibly no what could be causing this.
Cheers

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those pumps are HORRIBLE, it might be dying. Even if new.

But a plugged fuel tank outlet will cause this too, and is a very common problem. So will the In-Tank filter being clogged.
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[GARRICKCLARK]

Cheers john.al drain the fuel out of it tommorow, remove the fuel tank outlet and have a look see,if its the pump which 1 wuold ya recomend

Garrick

[OLD VW NUT]

I installed a Facet fuel pump on a motor-home back in the late 80s. I believe it is still working. Maybe their quality isn't what it once was but I had no problems with it. It could pump at least a gallon every 6 miles - maybe twice that pulling a mountain pass.
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[wompninja]

I installed one, switched it on and the stupid thing died before the car even fired up. Facets are crap and they're loud as hell.
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[lostinbaja]

Facet pumps MUST have clean fuel. A single grain of sand can and often does stop the pump. Usually it can be restarted by turning it off and giving it a few raps with a screwdriver handle to dislodge the crud.
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For applications up to 200hp I prefer the rotary. Quiet and reliable. Beyond that I like the Mallory pumps over the Holleys.
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[Almost Alive]

Facets are not junk... when you get a good one they work FOREVER. Chances of getting a good one are less than getting a bad one though. I've been through probably a dozen of them and only 4 of them have stuck around. It is unfair to say they are junk but it is very fair to say their quality control SUCKSSSSSSS.
If they malfunction they normally malfunction in a few weeks of use, I've got a facet from my first vw that I've tossed in half a dozen other cars since then. Still works great.
This being said, I've heard most people have little or no issues with the rotary's. The only one I've ever purchased from CB was DOA. Probably not common at all but it left a bad taste in my mouth.... probably because I bought it from Serrano's hahaha.... what a jackass.
In any case with the Facet's you need to mount them within 18" from the fuel source to get them to last longer in my experience. I put filters before the pump and before the carb.

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I didn't learn my lesson on the Facets until I was walking 7 miles home the SECOND TIME.
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[RockCrusher]

[20bugsys]

I searched here because mine died before 3 hours of total use. Prefilter and 12 inches from the tank. Left me stranded about a mile from home. I'll put my check in the "junk" box.

Luckily, I have a CB rotary waiting in the garage. I purchased it because the Facet was way too loud for my taste. 2 checks for the facets being junk.

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I must have gotten one of the "good" ones, because it lasted 15 years. It was replaced with one of the rotary ones due to requirements for more fuel, but it would have been replaced with another Facet if I didn't need the rotary. The Mr. Gasket Pumps similar to the Facet die pretty quickly if they're run dry. Anyone that I've ever spoken with that has primed a Mr Gasket Pump with a squirt of oil, or WD-40, has never had an issue with them. Any of the facet Pumps I've installed have been primed this way, and to my knowledge, are all still working.

[WVbugman]

The facet fuel pumps are driven by a solenoid. Over the years, I've sold hundreds of them to people not wishing to pay the price for a rotary fuel pump. I didn't recommend the facets because of the high warranty rate. Just like the responses so far, many people haven't had an issue and would purchase another. I just sold my first weber rotary style the other day. I hope it works out as well as the airtex ones I've sold before.

[vgajames]

Our NAPA parts stores here have USA made Facet electric fuel pumps.
They are not cheap at $58 however.Big black plastic in low or high pressure.I got on on my engine test stand and one on my Thing.
Only bought them as was local quick deal.I like the CB Performance Rotary pumps if i can wait to get it though more better.

[DonziGT230]

I just started having intermittent pumping problems with one of those on my buddy's sand rail. I replaced the tank with a bigger one mounted higher and closer to the pump, at the same time replaced the hoses and filter. Tho it seems impossible, some how the filter fills with air occasionally (probably due to the rough terrain) and the pump air locks. Even tho the fuel is above the carb inlet, the only way to clear it is to pull the hose from the carb and lower it and wait a few seconds. Sometimes I have to run the pump for a second to purge it. Once fuel starts to flow again I can reconnect the line and it's fine for an undetermined amount of time. It never did this before when the tank was lower and farther and I've checked the new tank's vent cap and it's not the cause. What I'm getting at is that it may not be the pump and even tho everything looks right, weird things can happen. In this case I think that having the hose, filter, and pump at the same level is allowing air to trap in the filter and accumulate 'till it air locks. My plan is to run a smaller filter so there's less area for air to accumulate and I'm going to route the hose so it has to drop then raise before the pump~I'll see what happens.
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[vgajames]

Those facet pumps are also pusher pumps and need to be mounted at the fuel tank and below the fuel level and at a 45 degree angle ,outlet above inlet (to prevent vapor lock)outlet on up side to work properly.Its in the instructions with the pump.