Ball joints and camber question

[djsun]

Are both top and bottom ball joints concentric for adjusting camber or just the top one. I have replaced both top and bottom ball joints and after adjusting the top one 90 degrees out the wheel still has positive camber.
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[KTPhil]

Both are eccentric, but ideally you only adjust the tops, so you don't mess up the steering lock angles.

[djsun]

but if you had them both out to replace them where do you set the bottom one?
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[KTPhil]

There is usually a mark on the end of the ball stud that faces forward as a starting point. You then turn the uppers up to 90 degrees each way.

If you really can't adjust to get the right camber, something is bent, like a torsion arm or the beam.

[djsun]

I might be crazy, but when I turn the tops I can see the roter lean in and out but when I turn the bottoms I can see any movement.
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[KTPhil]

Are you measuring on the ground or on jack stands?

[djsun]

the car is on jack stands and I'm using a floor jack to hold up the lower control are to "Ride hight". When I turn the upper balljoint I can see the top of the rotor lean out and then back in and I sping the ball joint, but I dont see any movement when i spin the bottom one.
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[KTPhil]

Unfortunately, the BJ front ends are harder to diagnose bent parts on than the link/kingpin setups on the old bugs. For those you just needed a couple of straightedges. You need jigs for the BJs.