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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Clutch Cable I DEAR Reply with quote

Check this out: Harbor freight special....called a masonry anchor. I call it a slick clutch cable shortener.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=96892

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how heavy is it cause it may bounce around.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is stainless...not heavy at all. Just looks big in the pic.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought one a month or so ago for the very same purpose... Will let you know how it works.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW, Here is something I made two weeks ago. It worked until I took it apart to shorten the cable a little more. At that time part of the bolt broke off. I hadn't gotten around to making try two which was going to use a little larger bolt. Anyways thanks for saving me the hastle. Very Happy

It's amazing that three people here are thinking almost the exact same thing.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the concept but I would be afraid it would fail because of it's Chinese lineage. In other words if it came from China I wouldn't trust it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with the ones sold at VW shops?

A guy I know made his own in a lathe, but it was basically a threaded portion that stuck through the clutch arm. The other end was just a barrel bored for the cable to slide into. He had two small allen set screws on the side to hold the cable. Said he never had problems with it slipping out :dunno:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was just looped through and tied off with a couple of these when I got it

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's wrong with the ones sold at VW shops


Other than they cut the cable and look like dodo nothing.

Oh yea I just got back from Harbor Freight, but I bought this one instead. It appears to be pretty nice and fits the cable well.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done deal. So far so good. Need to figure out a better adjustment nut arrangement.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Florida_Buggy wrote:
What's wrong with the ones sold at VW shops?

A guy I know made his own in a lathe, but it was basically a threaded portion that stuck through the clutch arm. The other end was just a barrel bored for the cable to slide into. He had two small allen set screws on the side to hold the cable. Said he never had problems with it slipping out :dunno:


Well its alright on my old Manx and its been there for 10 + Years on about 4 different cables
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a 5/16 bolt that I drilled and pressed using a 30 ton press.

Very clean. It was a little tricky to get the bigger sized bolt through the tubes.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yellermanx wrote:
Done deal. So far so good. Need to figure out a better adjustment nut arrangement.

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Be sure to keep us updated if you have any issues with the "adjuster". It sure looks good.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Done deal. So far so good. Need to figure out a better adjustment nut arrangement.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are working on a line of pre shortened brake and clutch cables. I could use some help with measurements. I have a few test units out there but we found some irregularities. If anyone is so inclined I need measurements from the back of the tranny cone to the back of the E-brake handle stantion and to the center of the pedal assembly hole. The VIN off the chassis and what Bowden bracket you have. Thin or thick. currently we are using standard ends for the application. The finished product will have OE style ends I cannot have them made until I work out the details because I have to have them made in large lots.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Tom, I'd be interested in 2 E-brake cables and the clutch cable. Chassis shortened exactly 12 inches, thanks.
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I need the info. I already have first run test pieces out there. We are in stage two of R&D. I need to compile this info to standardize the product. I will give anyone that helps the parts at cost as soon as they are ready. Based on the rest of our stuff and the time it takes to develop, It could take a little while to work out every thing. Like the tops. Confused Please dont ask about the tops. They will be ready soon. I am still waiting for one stupid part from the manufacturer.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom, I would think that shortening them 14 1/4" or 14 1/2" whatever the official chassis shortening measurement is would be the correct length. Of course then you would have to contend with those with other buggies like Empi 12"? I guess what I am saying is that however much the chassis is shortened is how much shorter the cables should be.

Now the Berrien is a different story and may all be somewhat different. I had to shorten my bowden tube to make it all work out.

Good Idea Murzi, I will wait until I get another/spare adjuster wing nut to experiment. I'm not sure that the hole isn't too big for the correct size Helicoil, but I'm sure something out there will work.

I know Low Cash has the shortened clutch cables, but the way they are shortened won't work on my chassis. When the clutch pedal is all the way up the cable end contacts the front of the tube. I think the mounting bracket is too close on mine to cut some off. However I have a friend with a Berrien chassis also and he uses one.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yellermanx wrote:
Tom, I would think that shortening them 14 1/4" or 14 1/2" whatever the official chassis shortening measurement is would be the correct length. Of course then you would have to contend with those with other buggies like Empi 12"? I guess what I am saying is that however much the chassis is shortened is how much shorter the cables should be.

Now the Berrien is a different story and may all be somewhat different. I had to shorten my bowden tube to make it all work out.

Good Idea Murzi, I will wait until I get another/spare adjuster wing nut to experiment. I'm not sure that the hole isn't too big for the correct size Helicoil, but I'm sure something out there will work.

I know Low Cash has the shortened clutch cables, but the way they are shortened won't work on my chassis. When the clutch pedal is all the way up the cable end contacts the front of the tube. I think the mounting bracket is too close on mine to cut some off. However I have a friend with a Berrien chassis also and he uses one.


One would think that but like the carpets there are different cables for each year. I need to make sure everything is right before I can sell a product. Why don't you try the flat bowden bracket on the tranny?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Custom length cables have always been available from here...

http://www.push-pull.com

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