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restojohnny Samba Member

Joined: February 13, 2004 Posts: 2835 Location: SPLITSVILLE , SON !!!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:37 pm Post subject: Dehne gauge info. needed please |
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Can you use a regular VDO/stock fuel sending unit for the dehne fuel gauge pictured below ?? If not what can I use ??
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54 Pre-A Porsche
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vw7266 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: the point, ohio
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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you much have barely beat me to that...I was the 7th person to look at that ad..
and I think that the sending unit is repo'd by the guy in Mass. |
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restojohnny Samba Member

Joined: February 13, 2004 Posts: 2835 Location: SPLITSVILLE , SON !!!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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 _________________ $$$ HUSTL'N AIN'T EAZEE $$$
** HELL YEAH I'LL SELL IT TO YOU**
O.G. POMONA VULTURE
MAGNESIUM BRM HOARDING BASTARD !!!!
$$ SWAPMEET MAFIA $$
48 split $$$$
53 LHD, LH cargo door standard kombi
54 Pre-A Porsche
55 oval ribbed door non-semiphore
56 semiphore ragtop
63 notchback (work in progress)
67 original Empi GTV beetle convertible !!
67 deluxe walkthru (work in progress)
67 convertible ghia (work in progress)
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Jake Martinez The VW Kid

Joined: February 06, 2009 Posts: 2124 Location: Wilmington, NC
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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..When was this ad posted? Never saw it... ...I'm assuming it was a good deal? _________________ 58 euro vert
63 bug ruby
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Congrats, that's going to look like shit. |
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vw7266 Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: the point, ohio
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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about 1:30 am east coast time...I would have spent the 50 bucks |
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oval56 Samba Member

Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 1309 Location: oktoberfest maintown
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:43 am Post subject: |
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nope, the vdo unit is not working, brezelwerks does a modification to the arm and housing, it will work, but it looks a bit strange.
i do rebuild the gauges also (orignal metal version) and in the near future i might be able to made some sending units.... but we will see... _________________ www.oval56.com
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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
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restojohnny Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Yeah that's the one for $50.00 I had an extra sending unit but a buddy needed it so I let him have it then this one pop's up Oh well I'm pretty good at finding stuff I guess I'll find another one in time. This one will go on my 57 ghia I just scored  _________________ $$$ HUSTL'N AIN'T EAZEE $$$
** HELL YEAH I'LL SELL IT TO YOU**
O.G. POMONA VULTURE
MAGNESIUM BRM HOARDING BASTARD !!!!
$$ SWAPMEET MAFIA $$
48 split $$$$
53 LHD, LH cargo door standard kombi
54 Pre-A Porsche
55 oval ribbed door non-semiphore
56 semiphore ragtop
63 notchback (work in progress)
67 original Empi GTV beetle convertible !!
67 deluxe walkthru (work in progress)
67 convertible ghia (work in progress)
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restojohnny Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: |
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oval56 wrote: |
i do rebuild the gauges also (orignal metal version) and in the near future i might be able to made some sending units.... but we will see... |
Please keep me informed when / if ever you get to making/rebuilding sending units buddy  _________________ $$$ HUSTL'N AIN'T EAZEE $$$
** HELL YEAH I'LL SELL IT TO YOU**
O.G. POMONA VULTURE
MAGNESIUM BRM HOARDING BASTARD !!!!
$$ SWAPMEET MAFIA $$
48 split $$$$
53 LHD, LH cargo door standard kombi
54 Pre-A Porsche
55 oval ribbed door non-semiphore
56 semiphore ragtop
63 notchback (work in progress)
67 original Empi GTV beetle convertible !!
67 deluxe walkthru (work in progress)
67 convertible ghia (work in progress)
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oval56 Samba Member

Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 1309 Location: oktoberfest maintown
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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restojohnny wrote: |
oval56 wrote: |
i do rebuild the gauges also (orignal metal version) and in the near future i might be able to made some sending units.... but we will see... |
Please keep me informed when / if ever you get to making/rebuilding sending units buddy  |
we ar on it  _________________ www.oval56.com
1956 Oval, 2364ccm typ4
1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
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Brezelwerks Samba Member

Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:40 am Post subject: |
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oval56 wrote: |
nope, the vdo unit is not working, brezelwerks does a modification to the arm and housing, it will work, but it looks a bit strange.
i do rebuild the gauges also (orignal metal version) and in the near future i might be able to made some sending units.... but we will see... |
Its great others are working on these gauges also!
The standard mechanical VDO sending units do work well. The main modification is reverse bending the float arm, basically so it pulls the cable as the float sinks in the tank, thats the easy part. Doesn't look too strange otherwise, and once its in the tank no one can see the float.
From there the question is just how original looking do you want your VDO sending unit to mount, and also look from the outside? If you want to install and have it look the same as the Dehne (with one hole in the tank), we custom cut the split washer nut (the inside the tank piece which secures the sending unit housing to the tank). This nut rotates into the tank exactly same as the Dehne sender does.
Without this split nut washer alot of work would be needed in able to modify your tank with nuts welded on the inside of the tank which match the screw pattern of the VDO sending unit. You can't tap nearly enough machine screw M5 threads into the thin gas tank metal. Instead, making the split nut washer would take a tenth of the time to do, plus it looks like the Dehne. Now, I've once seen someone fastening down a VDO sender to an oval tank with #10 sheet metal screws (through undersized holes drilled into the tank), and that will work and be rather fast to install it that way, but its nowhere as reliable as machine screws, and there is no way to get a nice concentric seal on the top to minimize gas fumes.
Mechanically the original style underside washer nut squeezes completely around the hole cut in the tank, so it squeezes from top and bottom. Sheet metal screws only give you that seal in one direction and its not even, so if someone decides to go with sheet metal screws you would want to use a generous amount of silicone or better yet a gas resistant epoxy all around the bottom of the sender and on the cork gasket you make/use. You need the best seal you can possibly make. You don't need a sealant with the split washer nut.
Other than the split washer nut all there is needed is @1/8" thick cork gasket, and neither of these parts are too difficult to make on your own, but the split washer nut should be 1/8" steel with all the M5 tapped holes for the top sender screws to fit through, in case anyone is interested in the DIY route.
What might look strange to some though once you have your VDO sending unit installed, would be seeing a VDO cap on top of the sending unit when it comes to looking at the gas tank. Our reproduction Dehne sending unit cap though is die stamped to fit specifically over the VDO sender, plus we put our perfect copy of Dehne water slide decal on top. So when you are done, no one would ever guess the internal mechanism is VDO.
Just mentioning the above to help others make the most appropriate decision for them, as not everyone is particular about all the details. We're also booked solid here for the next few months, and not planning to do any Dehne work until at least mid/late March.
But would definitely love to know more what Dehne sending unit Oval56 might be working on, would be good for others to know and have some other options to consider. |
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oval56 Samba Member

Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 1309 Location: oktoberfest maintown
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:35 am Post subject: |
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so time is going on, first samples are made and the process is going on.
to sender styles will be availible in limited quantity.
i will not reproduce stuff to make original cheaper, first mission is to complete original ones.
the floaters are in progress in the moment.
some pictures ...
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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
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oval56 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:38 am Post subject: |
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slow but step by step...
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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
DBK Germany!!!!!!!!!!
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Mike Fisher Samba Member

Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18041 Location: Eugene, OR
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Nice work! I hope your fellow Bug owners don't Whine about paying you for all your time/trouble!  _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
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GüteAndTite Early Convertible Güru

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oval56 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 2:32 am Post subject: |
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got my casted sending housing yesterday, they go to machining this week, so the end of line is in sight.....
3-4 weeks and i'm ready for sale
for the square dehne (57 and up) i can replace the plastic gauge with my metal version. _________________ www.oval56.com
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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
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oval56 Samba Member

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Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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one step more..... next zinc plate
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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
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jurgen272 Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Any idea when it will be completely finished and available?
Price? _________________ 67 type 2 (walkthru - sliding door)
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oval56 Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: |
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jurgen272 wrote: |
Any idea when it will be completely finished and available?
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jep we will have it ready for sale finaly end of june... last steps are in progress
for price, PM me
thanks _________________ www.oval56.com
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1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
DBK Germany!!!!!!!!!!
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oval56 Samba Member

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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some steps closer to an end...
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1956 Oval, 2364ccm typ4
1957 Oval Ragtop 1584ccm singel port modified
1950 Hebmüller, 1584ccm okrasa modified
DBK Germany!!!!!!!!!!
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Not Safari Izzy Samba Member

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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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oval56 wrote: |
some steps closer to an end...
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Wow Andi, really nice!! _________________ DBK Nor Cal
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