front door seals

wanta23 · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:20 am Post subject: front door seals

I have the door seals in from WW. My doors don't close real well without slamming them. I've taken a few sections out at the tight spots to allow the doors to close but now they don't seal real well. The seals from West Coast Metric appear from their pictures to be contoured to the shape of the door. Does anyone have input on this? I'll buy the new ones if they seal better but otherwise, don't want to buy what i already have. Thanks
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codeMechanic · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:24 am Post subject:

it took a few days for my seals to "break in" so that they weren't too tight. From WW as well.
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wanta23 · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:27 am Post subject:

codeMechanic · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:29 am Post subject:

EverettB · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject:

Front doors or ?

What year Bus do you have? The original seals are slightly different for different years.

My '63 has all solid rectangular seals on the front doors, although I have seen aftermarket seals that have a sort of center contour to them. The WW (Wolfsburg West) front pillar seal (covers the front door hinges) is not tall enough to seal but the WCM (West Coast Metric) one is bigger and has an angle that will seal that area better but does take some time to wear in... and it looks wrong if that matters to you.

Maybe post some photos?

This page shows some photos
http://www.dropgates.com/resto/doorrubber.html
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mysamba · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject:

I have heard the aftermarket seals are not as soft in general to that of the OEM making them not good for ease of closing of the doors.

Also they mentioned the color was off as well.

wanta23 · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject:

Its a '67. The WW are rectangular and quite stiff. The west coast metric ones are contoured as Everette says. Even if they aren't "correct", if they seal well I'll do it. My doors are shut most of the time anyway Very Happy

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splitpile · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject:

WW are all the same size, the a pillar seal is incorrect. You need to add some filler behinfd the A pillar seal. These seem to be softer then WCM
WCM seals are correct for 66/67 buses and are also what you would have bought at the dealer after 67 if you needed door seals.

EIS also made the 66/67 style seal but out of a softer foam (compound) these seem to work out of the package due to there compound.

I have WCM in my 60 DD, been there for 8 plus years and still are nice.
I have EIS' in my (now gone) 60 DC since June and they went in and I had no problem with closing the doors right after installation, nice seals I just don't like the weight of the seals.

I stock and sell WCM and EIS front and cargo door seals.
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SurfCityRacing · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject:

I've got the same issue with my '66. I have to slam the drivers door or it mysteriously pops open. I installed the WW seals about a year ago. I lost my coffee at about 30mph on the street the other day when I was fumbling to get the door re-closed. When the door is closed it's a nice seal though.
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BarryL · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:58 am Post subject:

codeMechanic · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:03 am Post subject:

splitpile · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:09 am Post subject:

EverettB · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:56 am Post subject:

For reference, my all original May, 1964 Bus has the U-channel seals along the top and the B-pillar (door latch) side. The dogleg and front A pillar are the standard all-rectangular seals.

So the U-channel seals were introduced sometime in 1964.
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candyman · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:09 am Post subject:

420GOAT · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:22 am Post subject:

AS i was learned , new vw doors shut tightly and always needed breaking in, but if you feel the hinge is gonna pop dont do it!! and i saw i had to notch the cargo doors where the hinge is underneath so the seal stays flat and wont pop the hinges. as for the seals i had some on my 64 and they worked really good and dont overlap the seals at the post. many do this.
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Culito · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:18 am Post subject:

I was installing a door seal kit from cip! today...most of the parts are from WCM. The door seals are rectangular...not square, and leave a good 1/4" gap in most places when the door is closed. I guess I'll have to shim them out in places just so they touch the door....shitty.
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EverettB · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject:

In most places? Something is wrong with your door. Pics?

There are some spots where the seals overlap, pushing them our further than a single seal width.
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Culito · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject:

No pics at the moment. The door seems to be aligned just fine, it's nice and even with the body when closed. The area along the dogleg seems to seal fine, and the area along the window frame looks like it's going to seal fine. (It's out at the moment.) But there is about a 1/4" gap along the lower parts of the a and b pillar.

Where do the seals overlap? I just assumed the pieces needed trimming.
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Olymale · Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject:

I just purchased WCM door seals for my 60 SC and another for my 65. They are contured in differant areas. These are far better than the set that I bought through WW a year ago and i will be taking those out in favor of the WCM sets. I had the same problem on the seal against the door pilar having a large gap with the WW seals.
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