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atlaw4u Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2003 Posts: 103 Location: Durango
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: Judson Electronic Magneto "Positive Ground" |
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I just purchased a NOS Magneto and the box is marked "Pos. Ground" so I am assuming it needs to be installed differently than a traditional coil. I would like to install this on my 59 ghia. Does anyone know the specifics on this?
Any informationis apprecaited.
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Glenn  Mr. 010

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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Positive Earth "ground" is for British cars like Triumph, MG and others. I don't think you can use that on a negative gound car like a Beetle. _________________ Glenn
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atlaw4u Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2003 Posts: 103 Location: Durango
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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The box is marked Positive Ground but the Magneto has no marking on it. I've been told the Judson Positive Ground Magnetos were usually clearly marked on the aluminum fin like the one pictured below.
How can I tell whether this magneto is a Positive Ground Magneto or not?
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billmetric Samba Member

Joined: March 16, 2006 Posts: 1062 Location: Columbus City USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, it should be clearly marked somehow unless it was inked on like the one in the photo above and washed off over the years, do not attempt to hook it up if you suspect that it is for positive ground as you will burn it out, it may be possible to change the transistor or switch the wiring around but I think you would have better luck swapping it with a british car owner who has mistakenly found a negative ground one, I'm guessing the positive ground ones would be rarer than the negative ground ones? I'm sure there is a test you could perform if someone can find an internal wiring diagram for either version, the transistor current flow must be reversed and can be checked with a transistor tester maybe take it to a Radio Shack store and get it tested, worth a try _________________ There is an idea of a Billmetric; some kind of abstraction. But there is no real me: only an entity, something illusory. And though I can hide my cold gaze, and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable... I simply am not there... |
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Mr. Loaf Samba Member

Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 2098 Location: Okra, Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:05 pm Post subject: Judson |
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You can either PM John Moxon here on the SAMBA or you can look up the Judson Register in the UK on line and should be able to find your answer. I do know that the side terminal on the Judson is grounded to the side of a distributor using one of the distributor screws and a wire. _________________ Never drive faster than your Angel can fly
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John Moxon  Samba Moderator

Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 14251 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the recommendation Mike but I advised Reid to post a question here as I didn't have a reliable answer.
Not being anything approaching an auto electrician I didn't want to give an answer based on hearsay and that's all I have.
Reid's Magneto is NOS so it is unlikely it ever had the "Positive Ground" marking on the fin to identify it. Even more awkward is that it doesn't carry "Positive Ground" text on the label, which was the usual practice.
However Judson were a bit inconsistant on the marking of their Magnetos and all we have to go on is the "Pos Gnd" stamp on the box so we have to go along with that.
The question is, if you fit it to a negative earth car will it burn the coil out?
There is a NOS negative earth on for sale on Ebay at the moment so it might be an idea to bid on that one and resale the positive ground one. There's always a market for NOS Magnetos. _________________ John.
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