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andy 64
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 Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: Which truss bar/kaffer bar to buy |
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Hi iam looking a getting a truss bar/kaffer bar can anyone recomend one appart from the csp one.as even here in the uk they are big money to buy
thanks for looking
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Bad bug
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gonebuggy
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^ Agreed. Awesome piece.
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mharney
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| I think that the ones Aircooled.net sells are very good. Mine was the weld in version he was selling previous, but the bolt in version he has now looks just as good. |
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W1K1
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I bought mine from VDub Engineering too.
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Scott13
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| I bought mine from eyeball-engineering.net. I haven't installed it yet, but it looks good just sitting on my shelf. |
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tpnuckels
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andy 64
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Wow thanks for the info.those bars don't seem to
be useing rose joints is that a bad thing or not
Cheers andy |
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stealth67vw
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Hotrodvw
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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I built my own......and saved a LOT of money doing it.
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Bruce
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That may be true, but from an engineering perspective, it is a poor design. The horizontal cross bar will flex down when power is applied because the down links are attached in the middle.
The others (CSP, VDub Engineering) are better designs, with the attachments at the end of the horizontal cross bar.
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andy 64
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| Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info.was not sure about the cross bar being in 2
pices on the eyeball one.does anyone know what the diffrence are in the ends like on the fast fab one to the eyeball one still not sure
Thanks andy |
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tpnuckels
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Bruce,
You're probably right that there will be a bit more flex with the Eyeball design.
However, I have noticed a remarkable improvement over stock with a more rigid feel. There's no welding needed so installation is much easier.
I don't use my car for drag racing. I was looking to have a better tracking car on the twisties. The truss bar, along with a rear stabilizer and front beam braces have made a significant improvement. Oh, no wheel hop as well.
I felt, for the money and the usage, Eyeball Engineering delivered. |
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W1K1
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| does anyone know what the difference are in the ends like on the fast fab one to the eyeball one |
With vibration and time the rod ends on the fast fab one will become loose and sloppy. Basically they are a steel ball with a steel ring bent to capture the ball. Some use teflon/brass others use brass liners for the ball to ride on which can get hammered out in a short time. The end result is the same loose ring and a ball flopping around.
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andy 64
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| does anyone know what the difference are in the ends like on the fast fab one to the eyeball one |
With vibration and time the rod ends on the fast fab one will become loose and sloppy. Basically they are a steel ball with a steel ring bent to capture the ball. Some use teflon/brass others use brass liners for the ball to ride on which can get hammered out in a short time. The end result is the same loose
ring and a ball flopping around. |
cool thanks for that.looks like it's between the eyeball one or the Vw eng one as they don't seem to use the ball type ends
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Tbirdusa
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I welded my roll cage into the horns. I don't think it's going anywhere 
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mharney
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This is the point where you start thinking about what is going on at the nose cone, and not what is happening at the frame horns, Tbird.  |
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Hotrodvw
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Then you get ya a mid-mount.
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Speedy
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Two locals installed the Bugpack kafer bar, both cars were street driven. One has a 1776 and occasionally does burnouts, the other had an awesome VW Paradise built 2276 with a geared trans to handle the motor. On both of these cars the Bugpack truss bar performed well.
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andy 64
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I bought mine from VDub Engineering too.
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where did you get that gearbox strap/cradle from looks like a nice pice
cheers andy |
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