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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Mexican Engines Reply with quote

Are there any fundamental differences between my '73 Ghia engine and the engines used in the last of the beetles? I mean, I know about EFI, but what about the maintanence regemine? Do those engines still need things like the 6000 mile valve adjustments?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they have hyd. lifters so they go much father before needing valve work. i don't know how long though. they are the quietest running one made too, I believe they have paper air filters, so less oil to change. and they have a external oil filter, i put one on my ghia. otherwise they really probably only need the 3k oil and filter change i think. ive always been real curious about the EFI set up and the power it makes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The oil filter is the only thing I see that's an improvement.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Mexican Engines Reply with quote

They came with solid lifters too . TROY
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also have a cast crankshaft, and different rods. Ok for stock, but I wouldn't use them for HP. At most a set of Kadrons, 1.25 rockers and a single quiet pack header.

They also have a fully electronic distributor.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about trying to get one for a good reliable daily driver. I want to build it so that I don't have to spend half of my saturdays doing maintanence. What's the maintainance schedule for these engines?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Mexican Engines Reply with quote

It only takes 15min to adjust your valves , you can have them done before you oil is done draining (make sure engine is cold) . TROY


PS , we put a new Mexican longblock (solid lifter) in my neighbors car last year , no problems so far .
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valves and oil every 3000 miles. If you get the silicone valve cover gaskets from aircooled, you will not have to change the gasket often. Adjust the carb twice a year, fuel lines once a year, air filter every 15,000 miles, plugs every 30,000...

Doesn't sound to bad to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Mexican Engines Reply with quote

vwdevotee wrote:
.... Do those engines still need things like the 6000 mile valve adjustments?
Valve adjustments are not necessary, that's the point of hydraulic lifters. I've got 42,000 km on mine and the valve covers have never been off.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't recall having seen advertisements for them, but can I get hydraulic lifters for my original engine?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Motor Reply with quote

Some people badmouth those engines but if you figure how many Mexican Beetles have been built and how many are on the road vs. the failures you'll see that it's a good idea to use them for daily drivers. Of course the quality isn't the same as a German engine but they're good enough for daily drivers.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Motor Reply with quote

Vayabroder wrote:
Some people badmouth those engines but if you figure how many Mexican Beetles have been built and how many are on the road vs. the failures you'll see that it's a good idea to use them for daily drivers. Of course the quality isn't the same as a German engine but they're good enough for daily drivers.


I was just in Mexico this week and I was amazed at the amount of Mex Beetles I saw cruising happily down the road at x-way speeds in 95+ heat.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vwdevotee wrote:
I don't recall having seen advertisements for them, but can I get hydraulic lifters for my original engine?


Yep. Call Mofoco.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Mexican fuel injected engines had hydraulic lifters. This engines where made for the Mexican market. In all Mexico made/makes six different cases. The case for the hydraulic lifter has a different size lifter bore. Most of the long blocks available in the states are for a carburetor setup that uses manual lifters. I know that both FI and carbureted complete engines have been imported, as well and long block only for a US Type I replacement. I guess the question is which one did you get, or are you planning on getting.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Motor Reply with quote

derv wrote:
Vayabroder wrote:
Some people badmouth those engines but if you figure how many Mexican Beetles have been built and how many are on the road vs. the failures you'll see that it's a good idea to use them for daily drivers. Of course the quality isn't the same as a German engine but they're good enough for daily drivers.


I was just in Mexico this week and I was amazed at the amount of Mex Beetles I saw cruising happily down the road at x-way speeds in 95+ heat.


That's what I'm talking about. Derv; I notice that you live in Oak Park. That's a beautiful area; I visited in 2005 and loved it. The hometown of my favorite architect of all time Frank Lloyd Wright.....
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Motor Reply with quote

Vayabroder wrote:
Some people badmouth those engines but if you figure how many Mexican Beetles have been built and how many are on the road vs. the failures you'll see that it's a good idea to use them for daily drivers. Of course the quality isn't the same as a German engine but they're good enough for daily drivers.


I think that it doesn't matter if the engines are up to the standard set by the German engines. I think that it only matters if the quality of the engine is suffucuent for the application.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Motor Reply with quote

And it is....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a mexican engine....
so far its been fine..
though i dont have the hydro valves
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