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Air Sucker
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Is that a hose attachment point on the back of the shroud where the oil cooler sits behind?
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Glenn 
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Not speaking for Jake, but I don't think that was included in his tests.
And that is a round hose fitting for the outlet of the oil cooler air. It's perfect for a kit car.
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Air Sucker
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Can you use OEM cooling flaps with this?
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I don't see any holes for mounting the flaps, but that can be solved. The rear dog house looks deeper than stock, so the linkage might need to be tweaked.
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Air Sucker
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| Can you use OEM cooling flaps with this? |
I don't see any holes for mounting the flaps, but that can be solved. The rear dog house looks deeper than stock, so the linkage might need to be tweaked. |
So you just need to drill a few holes then? This seems like an interesting option to the 181 shroud.
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Glenn
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| Can you use OEM cooling flaps with this? |
I don't see any holes for mounting the flaps, but that can be solved. The rear dog house looks deeper than stock, so the linkage might need to be tweaked. |
So you just need to drill a few holes then? This seems like an interesting option to the 181 shroud. |
Probibly... like I said... you should be able to get some flaps in there.
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Banzai KG
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| Can you use OEM cooling flaps with this? |
The one pictured above from CB doesn't look like it has the holes for the screws to the flaps.
The "Low-Profile" (Puma) Doghouse Fanshroud w/ fresh air outlets that I have on my Ghia has provisions for the OEMs as well as the two other Puma shrouds I have up in the rafters. I am running thermostat and flaps on my engine.
I bought mine as a kit from SCS (Small Car Specialties - Anaheim, CA) back in 1985 and at that time CB Performance (Claude Buggies back then) too also sold them.
You can see on left of the fresh air hose is the screw for the flaps as well as under you can see a partial cutout of the cylinder tin where the flaps swivel.
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Glenn
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Jim... what took you so long? 
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Banzai KG
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| Is that a hose attachment point on the back of the shroud where the oil cooler sits behind? |
Yes, that is an hose attachment. I used one of those paper cardboard type fresh air hose connect to that oil cooler outlet and route mine to exit under the engine.
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Jake Raby
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I did not test the shroud in question... At that time I could not find one.
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I have tested it and it is the best factory fan shroud you can get other then the DTM I had one on my buddy street car which made 185HP and 173TQ at the real wheel's never had a over heating issue. The best part about the shroud is the 2" exhaust tube for the oil cooler plus the unit is one piece not two like the other oem shround's.
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How did you fix the front tin where the hose from the cooler exits? Did you wels or pop rivit a piece of metal to seal around the hose? (stock rectangle exit, Puma round..)
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Banzai KG
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How did you fix the front tin where the hose from the cooler exits? Did you wels or pop rivit a piece of metal to seal around the hose? (stock rectangle exit, Puma round..)
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Steve, the front tin where the oil cooler exits also has the round hole in which as rubber hose is in conjunction between the two.
I can take a picture of one of the other Puma shroud and front tin that I have and post it here.
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| Routing the oil cooler outlet hose into the heater channel would be slick for easy winter heat. |
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Banzai KG
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Here are the pics of the Puma "Low-Profile" doghouse fanshrouds I retrieved from the rafters...
My set of Puma doghouse fanshrouds with the front tin
Bottom and rear view of the Puma shrouds
Bottom view with flaps and Brazilian oil cooler mount
Brazilian doghouse oil cooler mount
Internal directional airflow vanes
Front tin with round oil cooler outlet
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Glenn
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Nice Jim... that's a sweet setup.
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very nice jimmy...when are you going to sell me one of them things?!  |
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thanks glenn, i know and im tempted, but i want heat when the 2110 is done. afterall it is my daily. |
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