engine tin

[darg]

I have bought a 70 type 1 engine B6 recently . 73 engine messed up. The engine has a cooling tin, I think that is what they call it , that goes between the jugs and the pushrods. It goes from front to back of the engine. My question is , there is no cool tin . Do I need these also. If I do where exactly do they go? It seems like there is no space to put them The tin I am referring to is 3-1/2 X 4" If I need then along with the cooling tin, does someone have a picture of installation ? It would a pain in the neck to install them.
I thank you for replys

darg

[Dwayne1m]

If you are talking about the tin pieces that I think you are talking about, yes you need them. They just snap in place on the cylinder/head studs. Bad part is you have to remove the pushrod tubes to get them in. I learned that the hard way.

http://vwparts.aircooled.net/Lower-Cylinder-Air-Deflector-Plate-Upright-Engine-p/311-119-317a.htm

[darg]

Thanks for the reply. Do you have a picture of exactly where they should go? Seams to be very little space from the jugs to the head .

darg

[Dwayne1m]

I don't have a pic but they just snap in between the cylinders. They go right up against the cylinders. They will go on only one way. Just make sure they are snapped in on both ends. Their job is to direct the air flow around the bottom of the cylinders. Without them the air flow would go inbetween the cylinders and the bottoms of the cylinders would not have any air blown over them. The "taller" end goes towards the heads, while the shorter end goes towards the case. These tins do not make any contact with the head. They are strictly for the cylinder. They but up against the case for the most part so they don't reach the head.


Here is a video to help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6BhdHHN64s&list=PL6CC452A5EDECEEF6

[sb001]

Hi darg,
I don't have a picture of the actual tins in place, but they are #5 in this diagram, and snap on the underneath side between the 2 jugs on each side

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[darg]

Thanks guys for the help and replays . I have a one piece of tin that is under the jugs now. It is called the cyl. cooling tin. according to the adds selling this tin. It has a turned up tab about 2" that goes upward on both ends of the jugs. It has appp. a 2" hole that lets air go between the jug fins for each jug. A solid piece that is between the two jugs. This tin is between the push rod tubs and jugs. It is against the case on one side and the other side goes to the outer side of the jugs that are bolted to the head Hope this all makes sense. This piece of tin looks like a factory installed piece. Hope this piece takes the place of the small clip on tin. With the tin already installed there is no open space between the pair of jugs. The one that I am referring to look some what like the ones being sold on E Bay. except the ones being sold look like a two piece tin . called cool tin or cooling tin.

thanks

darg

[60ragtop]

Are these the ones ? If so they are type 3 tin and if you have the small ones under the cylinders, you don't need these.
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[darg]

Thanks for the reply,s

Rick, the ones shown are the ones, as far as I can tell there are no small tin installed. Being these are type 3 cooling tins, should they be fine?

thanks again

darg

[60ragtop]

some use them in the place of the small ones that go under the cylinders, they are marketed as cool tin. you should be OK
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Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986

[darg]

Thanks Rick , that is good news. I will run the type 3 tin. I have the engine just about ready to install.

darg

[jrmicrobits]

Sb001 do you have the legend that goes with that diagram of all the tinwork? Thanks

[andrewvwclassic]

1970 was a stransitional year. your head studs are 10mm the super cool tins will need to be modified to fit your engine. I would not use them anyway get a stock replacement they fit better and should work fine.

[Lingwendil]

Tins 9, 5(x2), 6, 10 are the proper tins to install under your cylinders with the engine assembled. I wouldn't run the type three "cool" tins unless it was all I had and I need to drive the thing to work tomorrow. My ex had a set on her bug and there was a huge difference (35°!) in the oil temp going to the correct tin.
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