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51577 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: 195/60R-15 on a KG |
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I'm sure this gets asked all the time, but can I fit 5.5" EMPI 8 spoke wheels with 195/60R-15 tires under my stockish '73 Ghia? It looks to be a perfect bolt-up for Bugs (Hot VW's Totally tech issue from a few years ago did it). I have about 2" between the top of the tires and the fender lip at all four corners, but will rubbing be an issue when I turn? Below are pictures of the stock tires (ugly as hell) in the fender wells for reference.
Drivers Front
Passengers Front
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vujade Samba Member

Joined: December 14, 2003 Posts: 1548 Location: DB, FL, US
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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185/65/15 would probably be a better fit. They are about the exact
same height as a 195/60/15, but a 1/2" narrower.
Its going to be a tight fit regardless of what size tire you use seeing
as Aftermarket Empi's dont have the best offset  _________________ www.DaytonaWinterJam.com
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51577 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Is there a wheel with better offset but similar looks? |
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58lolight Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have 195/60s on the rear of my 58 Ghia but had to shave my rear wheel arches to fit. I have 185/60s on the front and have no issues. I am running BRMs on my car and I think they have a better offset than 8 spokes.
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Cohibra45 Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 299 Location: New Braunfels, Tx
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm running original Porsche 2.0 914 Fuchs with 195/60/15 Goodyear Triple Tread. They have around a 40mm offset and have 1/2" clearance between sidewall and rear fenders. The offset is what makes the difference.
Good luck,
Kelly |
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hpw Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 3010 Location: memphis
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Cohibra45 wrote: |
I'm running original Porsche 2.0 914 Fuchs with 195/60/15 Goodyear Triple Tread. They have around a 40mm offset and have 1/2" clearance between sidewall and rear fenders. The offset is what makes the difference.
Good luck,
Kelly |
Do you have any pictures and what year car ? _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg&list=FLIX26sGa8__1F1loczLPTtg&index=2 |
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Cohibra45 Samba Member
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agquarters Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Would it be possible to use spacers in order to change the offset of the empi wheels? |
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hpw Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:34 am Post subject: |
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agquarters wrote: |
Would it be possible to use spacers in order to change the offset of the empi wheels? |
That is defeating the purpose, as you would be pushing the rims
further out, closer to your fender lips. There is a thread here somewhere
that explains all this, but I can't seem to find it. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SLIzSCt_cg&list=FLIX26sGa8__1F1loczLPTtg&index=2 |
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Cohibra45 Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 299 Location: New Braunfels, Tx
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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The bottom line:
If you use Empi 8 spokes, you will be very limited in what tire size you can use. Most people find that the 165 is the most that the rears will fit on a Ghia. That is why most are frustrated and keep trying to fit the proverbial round peg in a square hole...
That is why I went with the Porsche 2.0 Fuchs. Even the Eagle replica Fuchs are not as much offset as the original Porsche wheels. Why do you think that Porsche/VW used these? The amount of offset is the limiting determiner for wheel choice. I guess you could cut down the torsion bars and shorten the trailing arms, but I think it would be easier to just buy the right wheels the first time!!!
Check out this site for '8' spoke wheels: http://www.minilitewheels.us/
You might even get the right offset you will need.
If you look under the rear wheel well of a Ghia, there seems to be a lot of room for a much larger tire than 165 and there is. You just have to find the right wheel backspacing...Just be careful and I am sure you will end up with what you want.
Also, check out these wheels: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2555661&highlight=#2555661
I really like these, but they are extremely hard to find!!!
Here is where I purchased my wheels. http://www.magrowheels.com/ He is very good and has a ton of photos of customers cars with his wheels.
I think realistically that 205 is the largest most will be able to fit under the rear of a Ghia. I have seen 215 and know that one or two have shoe horned 225 but that is with special wheels and other mods.
Good luck and take care;
Kelly |
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