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khughes
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 Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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| VicVan wrote: |
Not the answer to the question, but I would recommend OP looked at FAS. Their 1.8T turnkey kit costs $1000 less than the Boxeer 1.4T from Boxeer. And you get to buy from FAS, which seems to have a way better track record than Boxeer (on this forum at least...).
Just a very satisfied FAS customer. |
I don't know a thing about Boxeer other than the wizz streams always flying around here, but FAS is a straight up outfit, with great engineering. Their kits *are* turnkey, with new everything, and everything needed to do the install. Including new harnesses and tuned ECU. And each kit is put together on a test stand and run to make sure everything is kosher before they go out.
They ain't cheap, but they are turnkey and properly engineered. I can't for the life of me see why anyone would choose a 1.4TSI over 2.0T (or 1.8T if you don't mind raising the lid) unless possibly for a tin top that's just a daily driver. Westy or Syncro? Not me. And that's irrespective of vendor.
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StefDS
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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Hi guys,
I'm located in Brussels (Belgium, Europe) so unfortunately the FAS is not an option.
Another option for me is the 2.5 GW engine (currently 10300€ for just the longblock at https://dream-drive.nl/t3-engine/2-5-wbx-boxer ).
Maybe I need to investigate that option a bit more.
Anyway, thanks already for the replies. |
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khughes
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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Could you clarify the restriction? Why GW or Boxeer would be acceptable in Belgium, while others would not? Just curious.
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11BC2
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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Subaru EJ253 late model engine is ~160hp, putting down ~ 130hp at the rear wheels.
VW 1.9 wbx is ~90hp, and put down 72hp/80lb-ft of torque on my dyno.
I'd suspect that with the VW 1.4T, you'd see about 120hp at the wheels.
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tjet 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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| khughes wrote: |
| Could you clarify the restriction? Why GW or Boxeer would be acceptable in Belgium, while others would not? Just curious. |
Isn't that 1.4 more common in the EU? |
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khughes
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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| tjet wrote: |
| khughes wrote: |
| Could you clarify the restriction? Why GW or Boxeer would be acceptable in Belgium, while others would not? Just curious. |
Isn't that 1.4 more common in the EU? |
Certainly. But the OP implied, by my reading, that there may be regulatory exclusions of some engines or vendors in Belgium. So I was curious if that is the case.
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crazyvwvanman
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MrPolak
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| Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: Boxeer 1.4L TSI experiences |
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| 11BC2 wrote: |
Subaru EJ253 late model engine is ~160hp, putting down ~ 130hp at the rear wheels.
VW 1.9 wbx is ~90hp, and put down 72hp/80lb-ft of torque on my dyno.
I'd suspect that with the VW 1.4T, you'd see about 120hp at the wheels. |
The 1.4 makes some delicious torque numbers. In a heavy Westy, I bet you would not miss the extra power that high in the RPM range and shift at around 4000 rpm or less. The 1.4 is developed for a flat torque curve.
1.4 TSI:
Maximum Horsepower @ RPM
147 @ 5000
Maximum Torque @ RPM
184 @ 1400
Subaru:
162 hp.at 5600 rpm
167 lb⋅ft torque at 4400 rpm. |
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