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overrestored
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 Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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I think the era of single stage paint is almost over here in California (not sure about the rest of the world). Glasurit will no longer sell 22 line single stage by the end of this year I am told.
Is there any other single stage paint available that is legal.
Otherwise all you are gonna get is base coat clear coat... and that just doesn't look right on an old vw.
Better hurry and get your paint now. As of today Jan 1 2008... I think it is illegal for body shops to buy glasurit 22 line paint. We as private citizens can still buy it so far as I know.... but only for the next 12 months I think. |
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74vwbaja
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| you guys in cali have it the worst. the epa is switching everyone over to waterbased paint which will throw you do it yourselfers a little twist. Out on the east coast, we still have some time before we all switch. But good luck finding the single stage paint that you guys need. I know it can be hard. |
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Pharquarx
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| Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: What is the Difference between Type 55 and Type 22 Glasurit |
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What is the difference between Glasurit Type 55 and Type 22? I just had the body shop buy paint for my 67 Vert project so we can avoid the water based paint. It came in as Yukon Yellow, Type 55, The Horizon Blue for my 56 is Type 22,
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Alan Brase
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| Does anyone know the "shelf life" of this paint if it is properly stored:?: |
I'd expect it to be a long, long time, if the can has never been opened. Every time you open it the vapor pressure of ths sovenst goes down, so some more can evaporate; and with most paints, more oxygen enters so some paint may skin over.
I've opened 10 year old paint before and found it usable.
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Alika
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Years if not catalyzed and stored at temperatures above freezing. A technical manual (depending on the manufacturer) will state an approximate 2 year shelf life , but like Al , I've used uncatalyzed paint that is many years old (as long as you utilize new additives).
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61karmann
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| Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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I have a half gallon of glasurit 22 line from 15 years or so ago still ok, but no hardener. since they don't even make the same 929-83 hardener I used with it, and nowhere to buy glasurit, I was wondering would it really be that bad to use different hardener with wrong VOC with old paint? I know it may not cure all the way, but maybe it will, I don't know.
anyone have a recommendation for a hardener to try out that might work for small areas?
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:44 am Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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That’s a big bag of no, what hardener do they reccomend now?
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61karmann
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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| That’s a big bag of no, what hardener do they reccomend now? |
dang, after a long phone call with glasurit they laughed and said my 22 line is outdated, and the current 22line hardener VOC is completely different. he said I MAY want to try a hardener meant for clear, 929-130, with no promise. unavailable anywhere, but thanks just checking with people who might have experimented, its hard to throw all this paint out.
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:46 am Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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| 67ctbug wrote: |
| That’s a big bag of no, what hardener do they reccomend now? |
dang, after a long phone call with glasurit they laughed and said my 22 line is outdated, and the current 22line hardener VOC is completely different. he said I MAY want to try a hardener meant for clear, 929-130, with no promise. unavailable anywhere, but thanks just checking with people who might have experimented, its hard to throw all this paint out. |
Keep up hope.
Probably someone knows. I have a good friend that does a lot of this shtuff, but he has no experience with Glasso products.
hang in there.
I agree, that old paint in the can is nearly priceless.
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:23 am Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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I can see the clear hardener maybe working, give it a shot. At work when doing cut-ins, I use Diamont base, RM reducer, and Limco hardener (clear hardener) and it works great.
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Alan Brase
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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| 67ctbug wrote: |
| I can see the clear hardener maybe working, give it a shot. At work when doing cut-ins, I use Diamont base, RM reducer, and Limco hardener (clear hardener) and it works great. |
Seems to me that R-M >> Inmont>>Diamont was one of the LAST GOOD products available to refinishers in the US.
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To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:22 am Post subject: Re: original style single stage glasurit 22 line almost extinct |
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I’m in California and I can still get single stage and even regular base.
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