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Adventurewagen Samba Member

Joined: April 14, 2003 Posts: 1583 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: Syncro CV Boot Repair |
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I've got a quick question. I'm trying to replace the front inner CV boot on my new 86 Syncro but running into problems.
I can't get enough clearance to pull the CV joint off the axle so that I can slide on the new boot.
I'm new to Vanagons and Syncro's and I don't yet have a Bentley so I'm stuck with my CV now half apart in my driveway.
Do I have to pull the whole axle? If I do can I do it without replacing the outer CV boot? Do I need to drop the front diff or something?
If I have to pull the axle can anyone give me a quick rundown on how to pull the outer boot.
I've turned the wheel and jacked up the bus but still no luck. So much for this being as easy as the CV's on my other VW's.  _________________ 63 Gulf Blue Notch
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Dogpilot Samba Member

Joined: October 03, 2005 Posts: 4205 Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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I am unclear, are you replacing the CV boot to the wheel or to the front differential? The one to the wheel comes of via removing the nut on the outside of the wheel hub.
_________________ Geology with a Syncro rocks!
86 Syncro Westy AKA "The Bughunter"
98 Disco I
08 Range Rover SC
08 VW Rabbit S
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Adventurewagen Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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The CV to the front diff is what I'm trying to replace. I was hoping to have the clearance to just pull the retaining ring and do a quicker half axle repair but I don't have clearance with the front diff in the way to get it off.
Edit: So the end nut was 30mm and came off without a problem.
Now... How do I get the clearance to pull the axle off the van? The outer CV is sliding in and out just fine but I can get it out around the front differential on the inside. _________________ 63 Gulf Blue Notch
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fairweather Samba Member

Joined: August 26, 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Aspen, CO
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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How do I get the clearance to pull the axle off the van? |
I did this by disconnecting the upper ball joint via 2 allen head bolts, this allows the steering knuckle to fall away and give you enough room to get it out. I left the axle nut on the axle with it sticking out past the end a 1/4" and tapped it with a 3 lb sledge to get it lose.
It is a little unwieldy in that situation so as an altenative you can disconnect the lower ball joint as well using a pickle fork or the above method and take it to your bench to remove the axle.
If you can't get the lower BJ off you can undo the three bolts holding the strut/radius bar on and remove the chunk of metal the BJ is mounted in from the lower control arm. You have to remove the upper BJ first to get clearance to get the three bolts out.
It'll be much easier to redo the cv this way. |
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Adventurewagen Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys. I finally got the axle to clear with the wheel pointing dead ahead. I then jacked up that side of the bus and got the entire joint to slide out of the wheel side.
To get the entire joint free though I had to pull the swaybar links on both sides and then it was just a matter of sliding out the joint.
My only problem now is that the CV is stuck on the axle really good.
Any ideas on getting that off? _________________ 63 Gulf Blue Notch
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Dogpilot Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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An air hammer, like a 3x rivet gun works. If you don't have one, perhaps you can take it down to a shop and have them beat it off with one. _________________ Geology with a Syncro rocks!
86 Syncro Westy AKA "The Bughunter"
98 Disco I
08 Range Rover SC
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Adventurewagen Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Well I got the job done
After getting the axle out the CV was stuck so I used a hammer and flat chisel and tapped it off. What a mess!
Then after cleaning everything I pulled on the new boot and hammered the joint back on then packed it full of grease.
The only problem was the damn CV kit. Lame ass EMPI POS... They didn't send new bolts?!? WTF. So I had to go steal some new bolts from a kit for my 71 that wasn't as crap as this kit was.
Now I'll just have to go find the right bolts for the remaining CV joints as I replace those.
Next up, fixing the gas and temp gauge  _________________ 63 Gulf Blue Notch
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HeftySmurf Samba Member

Joined: June 15, 2008 Posts: 879 Location: Washington, USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Just ran into the smae BS, $265 for a new axle and no new bolts _________________ -Lorenzo
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ranchero Samba Member

Joined: October 11, 2006 Posts: 360 Location: Salida, CO
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I just did mine following Fairweather's advice. Worked like a charm. Loosen the upper ball joint axle/spindle - the big nut - before removing the upper bolts that mount it to the control arm. Then you can use a pickle fork to separate it from the wheel bearing housing.
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How do I get the clearance to pull the axle off the van? |
I did this by disconnecting the upper ball joint via 2 allen head bolts, this allows the steering knuckle to fall away and give you enough room to get it out. I left the axle nut on the axle with it sticking out past the end a 1/4" and tapped it with a 3 lb sledge to get it lose.
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'96 FZJ80 (cheap by comparison^^)
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I removed the upper ball joint as well and loosened the front differential for a little extra play. I think I even removed the front stabalizer bar as I was getting frustrated with not having enough room
Next time go to autohausaz.com and get your boots for $8 WITH new bolts and grease. I toss the metal rings and use zip ties but either way the kits are good. I had so much fun I did all 6 of the easy ones! _________________ '86 Syncro Westy - 2.5 Subaru Conversion |
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