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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce Wayne wrote:
my father in law gave me a Cen-Tech P35761 multimeter a couple of years ago.seems very cheap and dime store like to me. directions are not very good either.

http://www.ingram-tech.com/products/p35761.htm


Did it function correctly though?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the sunpro brand but my wife got me this a few months ago its a power probe
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but want one of these. http://www.motorbookguy.com/VW_Audi_OBD_2_Code_Reader_Live_Data_Autoscanner_p/vag405.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had several cheap ones over the years and they never seemed to totally agree with each other. I recently splurged on a FLUKE 115 and I will never have to get another one for as long as I live (assuming I don't lose it) Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good gawd - am I a dinosaur! I am still using the Radio Shack meter I bought back in high school (1979!)

Now, what's this digital thing everone is on about?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now if I can only figure out how it works. I tried testing the Temp 2,but I don't know where to hook up the leads on the multimeter or the Temp 2. anyone help me out on this as I have never used a multimeter before.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good gawd - am I a dinosaur! I am still using the Radio Shack meter I bought back in high school (1979!)

Now, what's this digital thing everone is on about?

Hey, I used to have a RadioShack multimeter from the 70s too. It was really good. But alas, I have no idea what happened to it. I also had a Texas Instruments SR50 calculator that cost $185 back in 1974. Gone too Crying or Very sad But I still have my old slide rule, and I still use it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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now if I can only figure out how it works. I tried testing the Temp 2,but I don't know where to hook up the leads on the multimeter or the Temp 2. anyone help me out on this as I have never used a multimeter before.

Download this file:
http://www.westfalia.gomez-perales.com/Images/Actron%20Multimeter.pdf
It is the manual from a cheap multimeter that I have, (I bought it for the tachometer function) and while the meter itself is not great, the manual is! It steps you through a whole lot of automotive specific processes in really good detail. This will at least get you started.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perales wrote:
deprivation wrote:
Good gawd - am I a dinosaur! I am still using the Radio Shack meter I bought back in high school (1979!)

Now, what's this digital thing everone is on about?

Hey, I used to have a RadioShack multimeter from the 70s too. It was really good. But alas, I have no idea what happened to it. I also had a Texas Instruments SR50 calculator that cost $185 back in 1974. Gone too Crying or Very sad But I still have my old slide rule, and I still use it.


I think I had that calculator too. Was that the one where the buttons didn't always work and the battery died with 10 mins left to go in the exam?

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think I had that calculator too. Was that the one where the buttons didn't always work and the battery died with 10 mins left to go in the exam?

Joe

That's the one, built in rechargeable battery so you couldn't just pop in some fresh AAs. Built like a tank.
With a belt loop on the case, man I looked cool with that thing strapped on. d'oh!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:04 pm    Post subject: meter,meter,meter, everywhere Reply with quote

personally i like the old simpson but the fluke is by far the better meter had my fluke 75 for almost 30 years and still ticking and yes the auto shutoff is great. it just needs a solar charger and lithium ion to complete it.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deprivation wrote:
Good gawd - am I a dinosaur! I am still using the Radio Shack meter I bought back in high school (1979!)

Now, what's this digital thing everone is on about?


That sounds modern to me, I still have a Heathkit vacuum tube volt meter that I built way back in the sixties. I have to admit that I don't use it very much anymore, but it looks cool. My everyday meter is a Triplett that dates from 1977, it seldom gathers much dust, nice sturdy meter with a leather case. Only for the occasions where I need higher accuracy do I pull out the digital.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a Fluke 23 in the mid eighties and it still works perfectly and is solid as a brick.I think I've had to change the batteries (9volt) maybe twice in that time and I use it alot both on my van and as an audio tech.Totally worth the investment.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought this meter recently, it's not bad for $30:

http://aidetek.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&am...y_Code=DMM

It has some great features like auto-off, duty cycle, frequency, an included thermocouple, 20A current, relative measurement, 3hz screen update, etc.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deprivation wrote:
Good gawd - am I a dinosaur! I am still using the Radio Shack meter I bought back in high school (1979!)

Now, what's this digital thing everone is on about?

Another dinosaur here... I just gave my Radio Shack meter to the thrift store after it served me well for about 30 years. I bought a Fluke 177 on eBay because I wanted a more sensitive digital meter. I don't know which meters have this feature, but on the Fluke I can tell the display to update only with min, max or average readings so it can behave more like the analog instead of jumping all over the place like the early digitals (a problem that steered me clear of digitals for years).

A couple of things I find I really like about this meter: the audible continuity tester... probably 80% or 90% of the time when I used the ohm meter function it was to test continuity and I find the audible feature to be much faster when doing multiple tests. I also like the fact that it's more compact and it's designed so you can hang it easily. I use a small Velcro cable tie through the slot on the back of the meter and I can usually find someplace to hang it above my work. I also wanted the frequency measurement capability.

I debated whether to get one of the meters with the temperature sender, and actually won an auction on one and paid for it but the seller flaked out. The Flukes that seemed to be in the ballpark for what I wanted were the 115, 116*, 117, 175, 177, 179* (* = temperature measurement feature). I think any of these would be pretty good options for automotive troubleshooting... Flukes are definitely priced as pro tools but they are good quality.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reviving an old topic,

Going to work though some electrical issues on the van over this winter and Im tired of the cheap digital multimeters failing, so Im going to source a robust one. I also need a meter for various battery testing (sons collection of airsoft and RC cars) plus home wiring use.

Looks like the Fluke 110 family fits the bill (Fluke 113, 114 or 115). The 116 has temperature sensors but I cant figure out how I would use this on a Vanagon unless Im trying to put out a gas line fire.

Anybody have these? Will this take car of any vanagon need? Will the 113 do everything on the van or do I need more features.

Total noob on auto electrical testing so I dont know what features to look for.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure the Fluke is lovely (I don't have one) but if you ever want to test your
O2 sensor operation, you'll need an analog tester with the sweep needle.

For now, sure - get the Fluke. You can always pick up a cheap analog when/if needed.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bang for your buck, it's hard to go wrong with a PDI meter. Look them up before dropping your money on the Fluke. The ones that are automotive specific also come with an inductive pickup for rpm signal and a wire temp probe. I've had a PDI for years, and zero problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cheap harbor freight Cen-tech contributed to me overcharging my batteries as it reads .24 volts low, but I should have known better than to trust it.

I now have a AC/DC clamp on Ammeter/DMM. These are great for figuring out how much current is flowing through any single wire. One does not need to open up the circuit and run the current through the digital multimeter, And one is not limited to 10 amps max as most meters are. Mine reads very closely with my shunted meter/battery monitor as long as one zeroes it while the meter is right next to the wire it will be clamped over.

It also has an Auto shut down feature, and most all other digital multimeter functions.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-digital-clamp-on-ammeter/p-03482369000P.

Uses two AAA batteries. Do not use rechargeables. I was getting huge discrepencies in voltage and amps using NiMh's in this meter.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look for a meter with full sized sockets or the test leads. some meters come with "baby" sockets that wont accept the larger test lead connectors. many cheaper meters either have the baby sockets or have full sized socket wih cheap short length test leads, that wont accept alligator clips. if you buy a meter with the standard bigger sockets, and the test leads are short and have no alligator clips, you can then buy a quality test lead set, with long wires and removable alligator leads.

some really cheap meters (like the $5 one I bought once at harbour frieght) stopped working within weeks.

anolong meters are generally my favorite, they are great for measuring vairing voltages, and more convenent in measuring resistance that varies, It is a lot easier for me to see the variation of a needle moving than digits changing. however anaolgs dont take kindly to reverse polarity (plus and minus wires mixed up when taking volt readings.) one old school trick to help protect an anolog meter aginst over range or reverse polarity measurements is to flash the test lead on the terminal to be measured very quickly while observing the neddle, if your fast at removing the test lead you can prevent a burn out, you observe the needle, and if it rapidly shots to over scale, or rapidly flicks backwards, you know your reveresed, or over range, but since you only flashed the test lead on the terminal, you likely prevented damage.. You cant flash a digital to easily as you cant really see the digits go up, and thus it is easy to over range them (they are however protected aginst reverse polarity)

new younger technicians dont have this skill of flashing a meter test lead, and i have seen them fry both anolog and digital meters when there is an over range (anolog or digital) or reverse polarity (in case of anolog)

so make it habbit to flash your meter's test leads. a tried and proven method to save a meater from harm. if the flash does enot cause a rapid movement of the neddle to the stops, then you are safe to firmly attach the leads.

one nice thing about an anolog meter is that no battery is required for current or volt readings (resistance readings require a battery) thus an anolog meter would be a good choice to keep in the cars tool kit as you wont be stranded cause of dead battery

I have both types digital and anolog, each has it's fine points.

But no mater what, get full sized standard sockets on the meter to accept a quality set of test leads. it is a real pain when the test leads are not long enough, and/or there is no alligator clips so you cant have a free hand, for instance to hold the meter with or for writting down readings.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cellerdoor wrote:
The 116 has temperature sensors but I cant figure out how I would use this on a Vanagon unless Im trying to put out a gas line fire.


My Craftsman came with a temp sensor. Have used it quite a bit: A/C temp, brake temp, etc. There again, I don't have an IR gun, so the Craftsman temp thing comes in handy for me. If you already have an IR gun type of tool, then no real need to spend more money on a feature you don't really need.
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