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Wuzzlebubba
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Static timing light Reply with quote

Does anybody have a good design for a home-made cheap static timing light (that that seen in the Muir book)?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People ...correct me if I am wrong but the timing should really be set with a timing light, not the static type. Timing with static light can burn up the heads from what I have been told by experienced VW mechanics....right or wrong?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Static timing is a rough timing method used to get the car running, then a strobe type timing light is used to fine tune it to the proper setting. A 12v test light can be used for static timing and can be had very cheap at your FLAPS. Then you will have a tester for other electrical diagnostic work on your car as well, no need to build one.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make a static timing light with any 12 volt bulb, a golder and two test leads. Its explained here:

http://www.vw-resource.com/tune-up.html#static
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Static timing (other than to get it close enough to start) died for good in 1971 when VW went to a distributors that had a centrifical advance component. Earlier in many cases.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any auto parts store should have a 12 volt test light for automotive circuit testing for $4 or less, so just buy one. I have at least three; I usually replace the wire with a thicker one.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: recipe Reply with quote

one length of wire, one alligator clip, one push on connector (female), one extra dash board lightbulb with it's housing.

Solder or otherwise attach alligator clip to one end of wire.
Feed the other end of the wire into a push on connector.
Remove one of your dashboard idiot lights and plug it into the push on connector. Presto---you now have the Official John Muir hippie static timing light for less than $1.

While it is OK in a pinch, they really are sub-optimal.
You can get a decent strobe timing light from Napa for like $40. It is worth it.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that hippie static timing light got me back on the road when I broke down in the middle of the eastern oregon desert, August, 1993. 1971 bus.

I wouldn't recommend it for PRECISION, but to get your late model 1600 back on the road, it literally saved my bacon!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a pinch you can also watch the points spark, listen for their click.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDarby wrote:
In a pinch you can also watch the points spark, listen for their click.


Or use an AM portable radio, placed close to dizzy and listen for static rather than watch for a light.

All of this is just temporary to get you started. A timing light, properly used will make your engine happy.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I static time any of my engines then check them with a timing light, they are spot on (which only makes sense). A timing light is a must for checking the advance.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ga-boy thanks for the input about using the am radio you just saved my hide . got a show to go to sunday and the auto store was closed . and my beetle couldn,t have made it up a hill to make it to wally world . 10 miles away and a bunch of hills. driving it home i could only get up to a speed of 30 cause timing was that bad . I tried the 12 volt testing light just like they did on the bug me video and mine stayed on the whole time , so i turned to the samba search and problem solved . i,ll pick up the timing light on sunday .
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject: How to use it? Reply with quote

Where do you connect the wires on the test light to the motor?

Also, at what frequency do you run the strobe on the timing light?

I can make my own strobe, save me the $40-$80, but I need to know the frequency the light flashes.

Thanks for your help Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: How to use it? Reply with quote

flapjakpat wrote:
Where do you connect the wires on the test light to the motor?

Also, at what frequency do you run the strobe on the timing light?

I can make my own strobe, save me the $40-$80, but I need to know the frequency the light flashes.

Thanks for your help Very Happy


Static test light attaches to coil negative terminal (the one with the wire that goes to the distributor) and to engine bare metal ground.

Strobe light (look to Harbor Freight for an inexpensive one) has positive and negative clips (attach to battery or to coil positive terminal and engine bare metal ground. The lead attaches to #1 spark plug wire. Make a white mark on your pulley at the correct place, and not so easy to see the flash in bright sun, subdued light better.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4.99 ace hardware.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgsanford wrote:
4.99 ace hardware.


or 17 cents each, like the 3 test lights I bought closeout at O'Reillys last year...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome, thanks for the help
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