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Wuzzlebubba Samba Member
Joined: September 07, 2007 Posts: 30 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: Static timing light |
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| Does anybody have a good design for a home-made cheap static timing light (that that seen in the Muir book)? |
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72vert Samba Member

Joined: September 07, 2005 Posts: 134 Location: Wylie, Texas
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| People ...correct me if I am wrong but the timing should really be set with a timing light, not the static type. Timing with static light can burn up the heads from what I have been told by experienced VW mechanics....right or wrong? |
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Bugorsh Samba Member

Joined: May 28, 2004 Posts: 1358 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:17 am Post subject: |
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Static timing is a rough timing method used to get the car running, then a strobe type timing light is used to fine tune it to the proper setting. A 12v test light can be used for static timing and can be had very cheap at your FLAPS. Then you will have a tester for other electrical diagnostic work on your car as well, no need to build one. _________________ In pursuit of superior handling!
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member

Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 5225 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:29 am Post subject: |
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You can make a static timing light with any 12 volt bulb, a golder and two test leads. Its explained here:
http://www.vw-resource.com/tune-up.html#static _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member

Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| Static timing (other than to get it close enough to start) died for good in 1971 when VW went to a distributors that had a centrifical advance component. Earlier in many cases. |
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33361 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Any auto parts store should have a 12 volt test light for automotive circuit testing for $4 or less, so just buy one. I have at least three; I usually replace the wire with a thicker one. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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East Bay Volks Samba Member
Joined: March 12, 2007 Posts: 37 Location: Oakland Calif
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: recipe |
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one length of wire, one alligator clip, one push on connector (female), one extra dash board lightbulb with it's housing.
Solder or otherwise attach alligator clip to one end of wire.
Feed the other end of the wire into a push on connector.
Remove one of your dashboard idiot lights and plug it into the push on connector. Presto---you now have the Official John Muir hippie static timing light for less than $1.
While it is OK in a pinch, they really are sub-optimal.
You can get a decent strobe timing light from Napa for like $40. It is worth it.
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webwalker Samba Member

Joined: January 26, 2006 Posts: 2803 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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that hippie static timing light got me back on the road when I broke down in the middle of the eastern oregon desert, August, 1993. 1971 bus.
I wouldn't recommend it for PRECISION, but to get your late model 1600 back on the road, it literally saved my bacon!
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DrDarby Samba Member
Joined: May 12, 2004 Posts: 6543 Location: Northern Illinois
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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In a pinch you can also watch the points spark, listen for their click. _________________ Midwest Autosavers, Inc. Crystal Lake, IL |
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GA_Boy Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2006 Posts: 1405 Location: Jefferson, GA
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| DrDarby wrote: |
| In a pinch you can also watch the points spark, listen for their click. |
Or use an AM portable radio, placed close to dizzy and listen for static rather than watch for a light.
All of this is just temporary to get you started. A timing light, properly used will make your engine happy.
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Joey Samba Member

Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5376 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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If I static time any of my engines then check them with a timing light, they are spot on (which only makes sense). A timing light is a must for checking the advance. _________________ Joey
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volksie boy Samba Member

Joined: September 29, 2007 Posts: 296
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Ga-boy thanks for the input about using the am radio you just saved my hide . got a show to go to sunday and the auto store was closed . and my beetle couldn,t have made it up a hill to make it to wally world . 10 miles away and a bunch of hills. driving it home i could only get up to a speed of 30 cause timing was that bad . I tried the 12 volt testing light just like they did on the bug me video and mine stayed on the whole time , so i turned to the samba search and problem solved . i,ll pick up the timing light on sunday . |
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flapjakpat Samba Member

Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 63 Location: Fairbanks, AK
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:53 pm Post subject: How to use it? |
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Where do you connect the wires on the test light to the motor?
Also, at what frequency do you run the strobe on the timing light?
I can make my own strobe, save me the $40-$80, but I need to know the frequency the light flashes.
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33361 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:05 am Post subject: Re: How to use it? |
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| flapjakpat wrote: |
Where do you connect the wires on the test light to the motor?
Also, at what frequency do you run the strobe on the timing light?
I can make my own strobe, save me the $40-$80, but I need to know the frequency the light flashes.
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Static test light attaches to coil negative terminal (the one with the wire that goes to the distributor) and to engine bare metal ground.
Strobe light (look to Harbor Freight for an inexpensive one) has positive and negative clips (attach to battery or to coil positive terminal and engine bare metal ground. The lead attaches to #1 spark plug wire. Make a white mark on your pulley at the correct place, and not so easy to see the flash in bright sun, subdued light better. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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tgsanford Samba Member
Joined: December 28, 2003 Posts: 160
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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4.99 ace hardware. _________________ My VW History:
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Cusser Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 33361 Location: Hot Arizona
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flapjakpat Samba Member

Joined: August 24, 2011 Posts: 63 Location: Fairbanks, AK
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| Awesome, thanks for the help |
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