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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject: Jaeger Project Touareg Rear Wheel Bearing Housing Reply with quote

This project is promising since the rear wheel bearings are a known issue.

Perhaps if 150 more people from North America "like" this photo it will inspire him. Tiger Bus points out that the availability of the Touareg (and Porsche??) parts may not be any better than Vanagon/T3/T25 parts in the sticks. It seems to me that Americans tend to show more ingenuity for making new weird parts combinations than Europeans partly because of the automotive mindset of people on the west coast, and partly because Germans have to think more about TUV before making major modifications to their vehicles. Accordingly, if this truly makes any sense, it might be good to have parallel look at this by somebody.

Watch out, by 12pm tomorrow, all rear wheel bearing housings for Touareg in USA junk yards will be sold out and there won't be any more.

See original here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5020235298...mp;theater or

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or find his post in here:

https://www.facebook.com/SyncroBerndJaeger

The Rebel - New Developments suspension (rear)

After the picture of the new front wheel carrier here's a picture of the new rear wheel bearing housing.

Pressed is a VW Touareg wheel bearings, the same as the front, which reduces the amount of spare parts in rallies again.

Also on display is the appropriate journal to which then fit the C128 to the universal joint of the drive shaft.

Just as well as the complete lock of the center differential is currently looks ready by Friday so that we can block all parts newly developed next week.

And ... hopefully on 12 / 13th October still able to test the new material in front of the El Chott at the race in Emmen.

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Tiger Bus Syncro Bernd Jäger : The wheel bearings are a problem? Well I do not even ... even with hard slopes and 3t need some 10tkm to zerkloppen to - and then you throw up new pure takeaway had to anyway - neither original nor Touareg bus kannste in the boonies Buy
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Fritz Dalli Moin, .... there for the general public for the Alltagsbus also ?
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Syncro Bernd Jäger If it all works, what Bernd goes out, there will be this conversion kit work with any standard VW T3 , because the wheel bearings are indeed a known issue , and so perhaps there would soon be a cheaper and above all durable alternative



Frank Huber , the lock , the lock .. hurray ! ! Wink
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Fritz Dalli Moin, .... I have 5 buses and would like to block the parts for testing , 2/4 WD , 14 or 16 inch, .. please PN ... greetings Andreas
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If anybody has a red 21 tooth speedometer pinion shaft for sale I am offering $150 each for them, and I will send you back a white one (USA type) or other color that you may need and help you calculate what you might use. Also, you can modify your dashboard speedometer and you don't need any particular ratio anyway. The one I am seeking looks like the one in the picture here: http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/syncrospeedometer.jpg and you can take it out of your front differential without dismantling the front diff.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would swap them in on every van I own and maintain.

Awesome share Derek, thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I don't know, but what are the problems with the stock bearings? I replaced mine when I was rebuilding the van just because I was in there and who knows if they actually had 183k miles on them... I usually just see a bit of play at 12 and 6 o'clock but not much at 9 and 3 o'clock on good bearings. Are the usual problems just worn out hubs on the bearing surface?

I haven't had any Touaregs come in with a bad rear wheel bearing yet, but nearly see a bad B5A4 rear wheel bearing weekly (same style as syncro fronts but slightly smaller).

I definitely think this is a cool idea, but even for me, I don't think the cost/benefit is there. And I spend A LOT of money on my van... And if I did do something like this, I would make it fit the syncro front bearings (which are different to begin with than what Jaeger is running). It wouldn't be hard to make, just expensive.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes somebody explain what is the problem with the rear bearings?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem seems to manifest with large heavy tires which are driven hard, like 30" tall tires.

See also:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=502969
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=424074
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=506497
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Derek. I do recall those threads now and like I thought, worn put parts. Plus tires way larger than what was intended (although cool) will definitely put more stress on those parts.

Jaeger really does push all his parts way harder than any of us probably will, so this is pretty awesome. I hope something does trickle down to us regular users, hopefully using syncro front bearings to make it simple. Could even put in the extra bearing seals like the fronts have.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lifted Syncros with heavy rims, bead locks and large diameter tires weight far more than stock.

The stock bearings quality has fallen off in recent years.

Newly designed parts such as these will be welcomed by those with fully custom rigs and by those who put their vans through the paces offroad.

I am patiently awaiting a matching front upright for the Syncro to be able to replace essentially everything with custom, stronger and maintainable with newer parts.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a monster upright on Jaeger's facebook page. Scroll through the photos until you see one of the front suspension.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

240Gordy wrote:
There is a monster upright on Jaeger's facebook page. Scroll through the photos until you see one of the front suspension.


I have seen the ones from his Ralley van...I want ones to match these rears.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For everybody else,

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Touareg bearings are used in the front as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

240Gordy wrote:
For everybody else,

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Sweet!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the custom upright Syncrodoka?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

240Gordy wrote:
Is that the custom upright Syncrodoka?

Very much so.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely possible to get custom wheel bearing housings made.
http://www.h2sport.com/solutions/sport-spindle/
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These are modified Mk5 Golf/Jetta/Beetle front wheel bearing housings. They have the lower ball joint moved down to make the roll center more favorable when lowering a car.

I remember it took years for the final versions to finally be released and I am sure the first run wasn't cheap. They made hundreds of them and their client base is MUCH larger than the vanagon market.

An all new casting could have the correct ears for a bolt on big brake kit (I'm partial to the 288mm rotors with the later model single piston caliper like what Van Cafe sells as the parts are readily available and cheap! They put that caliper on nearly everything from 1998 to 2005.)
I don't know what else I would add into a brand new housing, haven't found a need for anything else yet...
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