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crukab
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Location: Vermont
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Vermont has a guide they go by for taxing older cars, not sure what that is, but it can be a little steep, I registered a '61 15 window 9 ? years ago, tax was like $390 or so, BUT if you take it to any Vt. car seller/dealer, they can fill out a form as to the cars "real" value, I got 65% of my $$ money back..
Also to be clear, Vermont does not give you a Title, just registration & plates, if your state takes that & gives you a Title, I'd say thats worth a $300-$500 tax bite.....
Plus, we needs the dough, yo........  
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I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI 
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
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Shawn
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Joined: January 16, 2007
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Location: York, PA
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| Please let us know in detail, what you did, how you did it, and everything in between! I'm seriously considering this route for my car! |
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Brokenbus
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Location: Balibago
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| Vermont DMV returned my application papers, check etc. From what I can tell they want $510 in tax plus $70 registration fee. They included some papers for appraisal or something? A new check for $580 will be in the mail. Hope that will suffice. Will update here when I know. |
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redbug64
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Joined: July 21, 2005
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Location: Fairfax/Essex, Vermont
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Yes. vT charges you tax on book value. It doesn't matter that you say you bought it for $500. I regestered my '58 double door panel lady year and they told me it booked for something like 14k. I got a dealer parasail and had to pay tax on 1500 instead.
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Jason Arms
Fairfax, Vermont
1954 Standard Beetle
1965 Firetruck Red Double Cab
1975 Porsche 911
1984 Rabbit L
1988 Scirocco 16v
Random Toyota daily drivers because winter. |
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Shawn
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Joined: January 16, 2007
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Location: York, PA
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| This may be a dumb question but does the Bill of Sale have to be notarized before sending it off to VT? All I have is a signature. |
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Brokenbus
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Location: Balibago
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| This may be a dumb question but does the Bill of Sale have to be notarized before sending it off to VT? All I have is a signature. |
No. VT is going to tax you on NADA value as I see it. |
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Shawn
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Location: York, PA
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| Right, but you have to send a copy of the Bill of Sale to VT, right? Mine wasn't notarized. Will they accept it without it being notarized? |
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crukab
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Joined: December 13, 2002
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Location: Vermont
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| Right, but you have to send a copy of the Bill of Sale to VT, right? Mine wasn't notarized. Will they accept it without it being notarized? |
Yes, it does NOT have to notarized.
Send a copy, or do like I do, have the wife write one....
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Tom
My Pops:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604100&highlight=
I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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ChrisFred
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Location: Boulder, CO
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Shawn wrote: |
| This may be a dumb question but does the Bill of Sale have to be notarized before sending it off to VT? All I have is a signature. |
No. VT is going to tax you on NADA value as I see it. |
What if it was gifted? Or as I should say "gifted." Lots of people will do this to avoid tax to and then miraculously make a "donation" to the family's pocket foundation. |
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EmpiGT
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| I went thru this with a title company on some busses I sold, the title company said $495 for them to get the titles, it turned out they were doing the Vermont registration on them, I did three titles thinking $1500 wasn't too bad. They applied and got them but to get them cleared and sent from Vermont I had to pay the tax at what they valued them at. One of them being a 56 deluxe one a 60 panel and the other a 64 standard. By the time it was all done I had to pay $4,000 for all three titles. |
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Brokenbus
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Location: Balibago
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| Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ChrisFred wrote: |
| Brokenbus wrote: |
| Shawn wrote: |
| This may be a dumb question but does the Bill of Sale have to be notarized before sending it off to VT? All I have is a signature. |
No. VT is going to tax you on NADA value as I see it. |
What if it was gifted? Or as I should say "gifted." Lots of people will do this to avoid tax to and then miraculously make a "donation" to the family's pocket foundation. |
Gifted will only work when you already have said title. There is a reason a loophole exists in the VT registration and titling process. It's called $$$ and you gotta pay to play. |
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crukab
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Location: Vermont
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| I went thru this with a title company on some busses I sold, the title company said $495 for them to get the titles, it turned out they were doing the Vermont registration on them, I did three titles thinking $1500 wasn't too bad. They applied and got them but to get them cleared and sent from Vermont I had to pay the tax at what they valued them at. One of them being a 56 deluxe one a 60 panel and the other a 64 standard. By the time it was all done I had to pay $4,000 for all three titles. |
What is the "Them" you are refering to ^^^^^ ?? What did the title co. get you ?? Vt. Registrations or Vt. Titles ??
When I registered my Singlecab, I had the owners hand written bill 'o sale, and it said "VW Pickup" of course the Lady @ the DMV could not find Pickup in there Book, she asked other co-workers, no clue, just charged a base price on the $1000 I paid, if they had figured it out that it was a Transporter, I would have gotten boned on the Tax.....
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Tom
My Pops:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604100&highlight=
I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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EmpiGT
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| I think it was titles. The day I received them I had to sign and send them to the buyer of those busses. But yes they taxed me on transporters. And the 56 was the worst. It alone was like $2000 |
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crukab
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Location: Vermont
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| I think it was titles. |
Maybe it was a title from the title co. ?? Vermont does not issue titles to anything over 15 years old, period. Anyone doing "The Vermont thing" gets a registration & plates.
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Tom
My Pops:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604100&highlight=
I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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EmpiGT
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| I did get plates so maybe it was just registrations, like I said I signed a bill of sale and sent them the next day to the buyer. This was just over a year ago. The new buyer had no trouble getting titles in his name. All I know is it was outrageous. |
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redbug64
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Location: Fairfax/Essex, Vermont
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You can litterally give them a bill of sale written on a napkin with mustard stains on it. All they care about is $$
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Jason Arms
Fairfax, Vermont
1954 Standard Beetle
1965 Firetruck Red Double Cab
1975 Porsche 911
1984 Rabbit L
1988 Scirocco 16v
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peterxxl
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Location: smwhere between Azerbaijan and Uruguay
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Hey Vermont guys!
I will be heading to Vermont tomorrow or day after tomorrow with my '59 Kombi to get the registration and plates.
I would like to user the dealer appraisal because I can't spend $600 on tax if it goes for NAPA value. My bus is pretty rusty and beaten so I hope the dealer will declare less.
Also if I am present in person in Vermont's DMV, does the reg process takes less time than mailing?
Are you guys around to grab a beer?
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Hi! I am Peter from Czech Republic...
Bringing VW news en Espaņol to your doorstep since 2009!
* 1961 Panel - my 1st VW - bought near Mexico City - traded for:
* 1959 Kombi - stored in Philly for now
Read my story here:
* Part 1 - Mexico City to Philadelphia
* Part 2 - Philadelphia to Europe - in progress |
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crukab
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Location: Vermont
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Hey Peter, I hope you get your plates & registration !!
Which DMV are you going to ?? Brattleboro or Bennington ?? I'll be home nights, but I'm in central Vt.
I met you @ Trailbash a few years back I think....
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Tom
My Pops:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=604100&highlight=
I know you will always be with me, rest in peace with no more pain. 8/13/14.....
In the yard right now:
'51 Dodge 5 window truck
'65 Bug
'66 Singlecab
'82 Rabbit Truck Diesel from CALI
'86 Doublecab W/T
'91 Vanagon carat/wolfsbrg.Tiico
'88 Dodge Ram pickup
'11 Jetta Wagon |
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Brokenbus
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Posts: 272
Location: Balibago
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| Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| For those out there following this the answer is yes. V DMV cashed my check. |
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peterxxl
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I just arrived to Bennington few hours ago.
So I guess I will try here.
Any recommended dealer for the appraisal?
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Hi! I am Peter from Czech Republic...
Bringing VW news en Espaņol to your doorstep since 2009!
* 1961 Panel - my 1st VW - bought near Mexico City - traded for:
* 1959 Kombi - stored in Philly for now
Read my story here:
* Part 1 - Mexico City to Philadelphia
* Part 2 - Philadelphia to Europe - in progress |
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