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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: Did all panels come with upper vents? |
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Can anyone settle a discussion we are having?
Did all panel vans come with the upper vents, or could that be purchased as an option?
I have heard that if the panel was a walk through the upper vents were not there.
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///Mink Samba Member

Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5051 Location: Fair Oaks, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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This question comes up a lot. Generally speaking:
Walk-thru: No upper cargo vents.
Bench seat: Upper cargo vents, unless it has M116 - Without vented cargo area |
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VolksFire Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2006 Posts: 904 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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X2. now, i would like to see a panel with M116. i think its safe to say its a rare or at least uncommon option. _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
Current ownership:
60 Double Door Panel
63 Double Cab
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67 SO42 Westfalia
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bikesnbuses Samba Member
Joined: November 19, 2005 Posts: 352
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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These windows were obviously cut out later..Theres also a \Velvet green one in the area also.Maybe comon for non-Westy camper kits? _________________ Willing to trade any parts toward/for pre 1950 balloon tire bicycles and 1970-1980 BMX bikes/parts |
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NAES Samba Member

Joined: September 10, 2003 Posts: 2167 Location: AREA-52 Southern Killafornia
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here's mine. DD walkthrough. No upper vents
_________________ Barndoor Mafia
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VolksFire Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2006 Posts: 904 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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yea, see NAES's bus is a regular walkthru without vents. thats normal. what i want to see are busses like the one that bikesnbusses posted.
a NON-walkthru (aka bench seat) WITHOUT upper vents. (M116).
btw, i have seen many campers other than westy that are regular walkthrus without vents as normal, and non-walkthrus with vents as normal. so i dont think the M116 option would be specific to campers. not sure though. anyone got more pics? _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
Current ownership:
60 Double Door Panel
63 Double Cab
63 Single Cab
67 SO42 Westfalia
73 Thing
76 Kombi
81 Dasher Wagon
82 Quantum Coupe
85 Quantum Syncro Wagon
96 Golf GL
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VWAdam Samba Member

Joined: February 14, 2002 Posts: 3343 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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What about walkthroughs with the vents? My buddy Jake had a 58 w/t with the vents and factory safaris. _________________ All he needed was a wheel in his hand and four on the road.
'59 Euro Beetle ragtop
'63 Standard Microbus
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Levonbenelli Samba Member

Joined: September 28, 2004 Posts: 1171
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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after searching the forum for "m116"
here's some
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VolksFire Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2006 Posts: 904 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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VWAdam wrote: |
What about walkthroughs with the vents? My buddy Jake had a 58 w/t with the vents and factory safaris. |
i would love to know the mcodes for this bus. the mcode for a walkthru with vents. are you sure its not a bench seat that was hacked out?
hmm. those are both campers too. interesting.... _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
Current ownership:
60 Double Door Panel
63 Double Cab
63 Single Cab
67 SO42 Westfalia
73 Thing
76 Kombi
81 Dasher Wagon
82 Quantum Coupe
85 Quantum Syncro Wagon
96 Golf GL
98 Golf GL |
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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks
I am looking at buying a 5 window Riviera.
I thought it to be rather rare as it doesn't have the long rear window or pop-top.
Thoughts? |
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Levonbenelli Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: |
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fischer68westy wrote: |
Thanks
I am looking at buying a 5 window Riviera.
I thought it to be rather rare as it doesn't have the long rear window or pop-top.
Thoughts? |
sounds like they never finished the job ...rare? probably, valuable? no. _________________ Wanted: flipseat parts: rear jump seat, folding chair, cups |
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cdennisg Samba Member

Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20775 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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VWAdam Samba Member

Joined: February 14, 2002 Posts: 3343 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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VolksFire wrote: |
VWAdam wrote: |
What about walkthroughs with the vents? My buddy Jake had a 58 w/t with the vents and factory safaris. |
i would love to know the mcodes for this bus. the mcode for a walkthru with vents. are you sure its not a bench seat that was hacked out?
hmm. those are both campers too. interesting.... |
This was just a Panel and if it was a hack, it was a damn good one. It had the correct '58 walkthru bulkhead. He has since sold the Bus, I can see if he still has some pictures of it. It was a rusty pile though. _________________ All he needed was a wheel in his hand and four on the road.
'59 Euro Beetle ragtop
'63 Standard Microbus
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VolksFire Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2006 Posts: 904 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:14 am Post subject: |
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very nice work cdennisg. so lind does confirm that M116 is an uncommon option, and that he has only seen it on Rivieras. but he does also say that he wouldnt be surprised if it was on another non-riviera bus. (which the green and white bus pictured above appears to be, a non-riviera.)
yea vwadam, see if you can find some pics. thats deifinitely an uncommon option. if anyone knows the mcode, please tell us. _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
Current ownership:
60 Double Door Panel
63 Double Cab
63 Single Cab
67 SO42 Westfalia
73 Thing
76 Kombi
81 Dasher Wagon
82 Quantum Coupe
85 Quantum Syncro Wagon
96 Golf GL
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fischer68westy Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2008 Posts: 85 Location: Wisconsin
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65Busstop Samba Member

Joined: January 06, 2004 Posts: 312 Location: Akron Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Not sure exactly what you are looking for. But my Travel Equipment Sportmobile camper has no vents, benchseat,and 116 on M plate.
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VolksFire Samba Member

Joined: July 24, 2006 Posts: 904 Location: NorCal
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:44 am Post subject: |
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VolksFire wrote: |
so lind does confirm that M116 is an uncommon option, and that he has only seen it on Rivieras. but he does also say that he wouldnt be surprised if it was on another non-riviera bus. (which the green and white bus pictured above appears to be, a non-riviera). |
i guess i need to correct myself. upon looking at the link 2 posts above, i see that this riviera also has 3 windows on the driver side. i thought that all rivieras had one long window on the driver side. but now i think im wrong. apparently they did have 3 windows at one point? so i guess it really is a riviera. im not a riviera specialist, so i dont know for sure. but now the bus directly above is a sportsmobile. so clearly campers other than rivieras had the 116 option.
as for value if that bus for sale, after reading the whole ad and seeign the overall conditon of the bus and everything that it has, i would say that it is a very nice bus and looks solid. the rust, from what i can see, doesnt look bad. pricewise, my opinion is that its over priced by 2 grand, maybe a little more. see what everyone else says. _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
Current ownership:
60 Double Door Panel
63 Double Cab
63 Single Cab
67 SO42 Westfalia
73 Thing
76 Kombi
81 Dasher Wagon
82 Quantum Coupe
85 Quantum Syncro Wagon
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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3081 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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I love it when I'm reading a thread thinking I need to post a pic of my bus and voila, there it is! Thanks Levonbenelli!
Yes, mine is a Riviera with option 116, as is cdennisg's bus, which in my mind is worth every penny of the asking price. How many nice, low mile Rivs are out there? I would say not many. _________________
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VolksFire Samba Member

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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: |
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sweet. thanks for clarifying that. not to change the topic of the thread, but whats the difference with rivieras that have the long window vs. the 3 windows? is it a year difference or something? _________________ Jahnai Pearson - VW Restoration Technician
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60 Double Door Panel
63 Double Cab
63 Single Cab
67 SO42 Westfalia
73 Thing
76 Kombi
81 Dasher Wagon
82 Quantum Coupe
85 Quantum Syncro Wagon
96 Golf GL
98 Golf GL |
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arthurnugen Samba Member

Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 3081 Location: The PNW, where "going green" means rolling with moss.
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Yes, year difference. I strongly suggest you read the thread offered up on the previous page about Rivieras. _________________
cdennisg wrote: |
Lawyers don't deserve buses. |
zozo wrote: |
Don't worry too much. You can always trust a lawyer. |
ALWAYS WEAR STEEL-TOE BOOTS IN THE GARAGE!
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1972 Bug 'vert
1967 Bug sunroof
1961 Ghia 'vert
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