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UncleDannie
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 Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: Need some help on M-Codes |
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Thanks a million for all the responses. I thought I had posted a 'Thank You' yesterday, but I don't see it anywhere. Oh well, two won't hurt.
I am now complete with all my M-Codes. I have the book in transit, so maybe I can help others with their code definitions.
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thewalrus
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Location: Belchertown, MA
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Ok my interest was spiked so I went out in the snowstorm and wrote down ol’ Maggie’s M-Code and got about maybe 80% of it deciphered.
Here it is:
52 089 363
J2R152 D02 148 227 508
07 5 7256 UP 2218 61
Ok I figured out this:
1st line:
5= 1975
2= Under 1 Million mark
089 363 = serial number
2nd line:
J2 = Lower paint color...couldn’t find official title but heard its called "Miami Blue"
R1 = Upper paint.... assuming that’s white but again couldn't find official title
52 = Interior color...."Leatherette" (Pleather knew that!!  ) and "Grey" color...Ok....
3rd line:
D02 was uncategorized so I couldn't figure out the whole 3rd line!! HELP PLEASE!!!!!
4th Line
07 = 7th week of 1975...Sometime in February...knew that...
5 = 5th day.... didn’t know that!
7256 = Production planning number
UP = USA port.... but it’s a mystery which one...anybody know?? Boston maybe?? 
2 = Van
2 = 7/8/9 seater
1 = sliding door right / LHD
8 = 7 seater / Manual
Well that all correct.... now the startling news for me!!
6 = 2000cc fuel injected motor  I thought it was unoriginal!!!!
1 = Manuel 4 speed
WOW!! I learned allot! Could somebody help me on that 3rd line! I'm sure I made mistakes somewhere along the line!!
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dwill49965
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2nd line:
J2 = Lower paint color...couldn’t find official title but heard its called "Miami Blue" - Orient Blue
R1 = Upper paint.... assuming that’s white but again couldn't find official title - Pastel White
52 = Interior color...."Leatherette" (Pleather knew that!! ) and "Grey" color...Ok.... Alabaster grey
3rd line:
D02 was uncategorized so I couldn't figure out the whole 3rd line!! HELP PLEASE!!!!!
group code DO2- consists of
067 - 12V 54A battery instead of standard 12V 45A battery
068 - two front towing hooks
085 - filled in factory with double amount of petrol
089 - laminated windscreen glass
102 - rear window heating
161 - seats in cabin with mountings for headrests
185 - seatbelts for all factory mounted seats in cabin and passenger compt
206 - inner rear view mirror, anti-dazzle
235 - mountings for headrests for all seats in pass. compt
253 - vehicle for North American market with tyres from specific companies
506 - Brake servo
507 - ventilation windows in cabin doors
511 - padded dashboard and dashboard lid
524 - USA and Canada specs
147 - seven seater model instead of 8 seater
227 - detatchable headrests for all seats in cabin
508 - vent window in sliding door and all windows opposite sliding door in the passenger compt. (three windows in total)4th Line
07 = 7th week of 1975...Sometime in February...knew that...
5 = 5th day.... didn’t know that! 14 Feb 1975 - Happy Valentine's Day
7256 = Production planning number
UP = USA port.... but it’s a mystery which one...anybody know?? Boston maybe?? USA, Portland via Seattle
2 = Van
2 = 7/8/9 seater
1 = sliding door right / LHD
8 = 7 seater / Manual
22 = Microbus and Microbus L, the 1 and 8 are correct
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That D02 code was a long one!!
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Adam Kirian
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I just picked up a '68 baywindow camper this week and I just have a question about the paint code. It is 523907. The type2.com list says :
523907 L87 perlweiß pearl white code for Westfalia campmobiles (type 23)
Does that mean it is Pearl white top and bottom? It is Pearl white on the top, but the bottom is a Maroon. I am pretty sure the bottom is repainted though.
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dwill49965
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You are correct. Special paint job codes '68-71 list your code as Pearl White, L87, Westfalia. Means the whole vehicle was originally white.
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thewalrus
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Location: Belchertown, MA
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| dwill49965 wrote: |
| thewalrus wrote: |
2nd line:
J2 = Lower paint color...couldn’t find official title but heard its called "Miami Blue" - Orient Blue
R1 = Upper paint.... assuming that’s white but again couldn't find official title - Pastel White
52 = Interior color...."Leatherette" (Pleather knew that!! ) and "Grey" color...Ok.... Alabaster grey
3rd line:
D02 was uncategorized so I couldn't figure out the whole 3rd line!! HELP PLEASE!!!!!
group code DO2- consists of
067 - 12V 54A battery instead of standard 12V 45A battery
068 - two front towing hooks
085 - filled in factory with double amount of petrol
089 - laminated windscreen glass
102 - rear window heating
161 - seats in cabin with mountings for headrests
185 - seatbelts for all factory mounted seats in cabin and passenger compt
206 - inner rear view mirror, anti-dazzle
235 - mountings for headrests for all seats in pass. compt
253 - vehicle for North American market with tyres from specific companies
506 - Brake servo
507 - ventilation windows in cabin doors
511 - padded dashboard and dashboard lid
524 - USA and Canada specs
147 - seven seater model instead of 8 seater
227 - detatchable headrests for all seats in cabin
508 - vent window in sliding door and all windows opposite sliding door in the passenger compt. (three windows in total)
4th Line
07 = 7th week of 1975...Sometime in February...knew that...
5 = 5th day.... didn’t know that! 14 Feb 1975 - Happy Valentine's Day
7256 = Production planning number
UP = USA port.... but it’s a mystery which one...anybody know?? Boston maybe?? USA, Portland via Seattle
2 = Van
2 = 7/8/9 seater
1 = sliding door right / LHD
8 = 7 seater / Manual
22 = Microbus and Microbus L, the 1 and 8 are correct
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Thank you SOOOO much!! Shes a West coast bus huh?? Interesting! Wonder how she got all the way over here! Thanks again!!
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aggri1
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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... Prior to 1977, the busses were built at Clayton, Victoria, Australia & we didn't have the plates. The only busses that do have them, are the fully imported German built busses after 1977. ...
Rob J |
Oh. I guess that explains it. I've been looking everywhere on my Busses and also on the Web for info, and can't find anything about m codes for my 74 or 69 or 67 aussie busses. Since the two early ones are double doors, I was pretty keen to see this info. But as it turns out I got none! Just curious Rob, where did you find this out?
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JDamm
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: Hello friends |
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I am a guy from Denmark, and I just bought myself (and my family) a T2 "offenbach" camper from 1974.
Can anyone help me with following M-code:
42 107 666
089 097 184 547 728
992609 Y15 Z01 060 073
04 5 7637 031 2319 31
Thanks so much
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dwill49965
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Hello friends |
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All information taken from "VW Transporter and Microbus Specification Guide 1967 - 1979" by Vincent Molenaar and Alexander Prinz.
42 107 666 - 4 for year '74, 2 for second decade, then chassis number
089 - laminated windscreen glass
097 - Emden car radio
184 - Three point safety belts for driver and passenger seat with roll up automatic and push-button lock.
547 - extra rust prevention treatment
728 - special S-code - chrome trim around Bus 5cm below windows '74 Westfalia Campmobiles
9926 - special paint code - pastel white L90D
09 - interior - camping red, cloth - 74-76 Wesfalia Campmobiles
Y15 - not listed in book.
Z01 - Bad weather package 1: rear foglamp (M571); wiper switch with interval option (M652); two halogen foglamps on front (M659)
060 - Eberspacher BA6 petrol heater (LHD) (fitted under cargo floor)
073 - Roof opening and reinforcement for Wesfalia pop up roof SO 73
04 5 - built 4th week, 5th day of week - Jan 25, 1974
7637 - Production planning number
031 - destination code - Koblenz
23 = Kombi
1 = sliding door right / LHD
9 = Campmobile
31 - eng/trans - \type 4, 1800, 4 speed manual
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JDamm
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| Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: Re: Hello friends |
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| dwill49965 wrote: |
All information taken from "VW Transporter and Microbus Specification Guide 1967 - 1979" by Vincent Molenaar and Alexander Prinz.
42 107 666 - 4 for year '74, 2 for second decade, then chassis number
089 - laminated windscreen glass
097 - Emden car radio
184 - Three point safety belts for driver and passenger seat with roll up automatic and push-button lock.
547 - extra rust prevention treatment
728 - special S-code - chrome trim around Bus 5cm below windows '74 Westfalia Campmobiles
9926 - special paint code - pastel white L90D
09 - interior - camping red, cloth - 74-76 Wesfalia Campmobiles
Y15 - not listed in book.
Z01 - Bad weather package 1: rear foglamp (M571); wiper switch with interval option (M652); two halogen foglamps on front (M659)
060 - Eberspacher BA6 petrol heater (LHD) (fitted under cargo floor)
073 - Roof opening and reinforcement for Wesfalia pop up roof SO 73
04 5 - built 4th week, 5th day of week - Jan 25, 1974
7637 - Production planning number
031 - destination code - Koblenz
23 = Kombi
1 = sliding door right / LHD
9 = Campmobile
31 - eng/trans - \type 4, 1800, 4 speed manual |
Hi dwill49965
Thank you so much for your help, that means so much for me. Next time you visit Denmark, look me up, and I make sure you will taste danich beer 
Best regards
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JDamm
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dwill49965
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Hi Jesper - no need to thank me. Thank the authors of the excellent book by going out and buying it!
By the way, nice bus.
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tech7734
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Can any one help me with mine???
12 083 213 E
030652 A01 508 697
46 3 7976 UA 2251 21
I think it's
1 = 1971
2 = type 2
083 213 = partial vin
E = ?
03 = Chianti red bottom
06 = pastel white upper
52 = alabaster (grey) leatherette
A01 = speedo in miles, sealed beam headlamps, rear window defroster, back-up lamps, side marker reflectors
508 = wing vent in sliding door and in the opposite side of panel
697 = ?
46 = 46th week of year
3 = wednesday
7976 = ?
UA = USA port, california
225 = microbus, 7/8/9 seater, sliding door right, LHD
121 = 7 seat microbus, 47hp motor, manual tranny, engine 157?, transmission?, extras?
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dwill49965
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12 083 213 E
030652 A01 508 697
46 3 7976 UA 2251 21
I think it's
1 = 1971
2 = type 2 - no, it distinguishes between the 60's and the 70's decade
083 213 = partial vin - yes, the chassis number
E = ? -built in Emden, Germany
03 = Chianti red bottom
06 = pastel white upper
52 = alabaster (grey) leatherette
A01 = speedo in miles, sealed beam headlamps, rear window defroster, back-up lamps, side marker reflectors
plus: 026 - activated carbon container for absorbing fuel vapour
089 - laminated windscreen glass
206 - interior rear view mirror - anti dazzle
506 - brake servo and dual circuit brake control lamp
507 - ventilation windows in cabin doors
511- padded dashboard and dashboard lid
521- with chrome trim and sunvisor without mirror
524 - with USA and Canada specs
525- seatbelts for USA and Canada
508 = wing vent in sliding door and in the opposite side of panel
697 = ? - fitted with Continental-manufactured tyres
46 = 46th week of year
3 = wednesday - yes, therefore 11 Nov 1970 (1971 model year)
7976 = ? - temporary serial number for production planning
UA = USA port, california - USA, Los Angeles
225 = microbus, 7/8/9 seater, sliding door right, LHD -and sliding roof
1 - 7 seat arrangement, 2-2-3
21 = 1600, 47hp motor, M157 - exhaust emission control system, 4 speed manual tranny transmission
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plj7473
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: H03 code |
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| I figured out everything, but what a H03 code is. Any ideas? |
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dwill49965
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You don't give the year of your bus, but the book doesn't list group code H03 for any year.
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77westyberlin
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I have a few codes i can't figure out, even the birth cert doesn't mention them.........
here there are:
GTK, LLE, VV4, 731, 793.
it's a '77 model year westy berlin.
codes i know about are
Z05, 060, 690, 547.
any help with the mystery codes? |
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jereandjess
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I have a few codes i can't figure out, even the birth cert doesn't mention them.........
here there are:
GTK, LLE, VV4, 731, 793.
it's a '77 model year westy berlin.
codes i know about are
Z05, 060, 690, 547.
any help with the mystery codes? |
Boy, those are some good ones! I pulled this info from Vincent Molenaar and Alexander Prinz's book, as Darryl does, so let's hope he can come along and fill in those not in their book!
Sorry I couldn't be of more help!
GTK - ???
LLE - ???
VV4 - ???
731 - ???
793 - Production number indicating a special note in the German licence papers, saying that a Trumatic SB2000 gas heater has been fitted.
Z05 - M-Package trip KM counter and clock, rubber mouldings on bumpers front and back, ventilation windows in cabin door and back up lamps
060 - Eberspacher BA6 petrol heater
690 - Passenger seat in cabin as swivelling seat, without metal partition behind this seat
547 - Extra rust prevention treatment
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77 Sage Green Westfalia 2.0 FI - since May 2004
78 Blue Landmark camper 2.0 FI - since April 1998
69 Beetle - In the family since new
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need
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22 2E - day 22, 2nd month (Feb), built in Emden
525 - Seatbelts for USA and Canada
21 - not listed
389 - group code includes:
056 - with steering lock
121 - two electric ventilators in fresh-air system
208 - trailer hitch and extra towing hook on front
507- Ventilation windows in cabin doors
508- Ventilation windows in sliding door and in all windows opposite sliding door in the passenger compartment (three windows in total)
072 - Battery under customs seal
119 - Eberspacher BN4 petrol heater with outlet in load/passenger compartment
128 - Whitewall tyres
KA - destination code - not listed in book (starts with KB - Cambodia)
2211 - model and type - 22 - Microbus, 1 - LHD, sliding door right, 1 - seven seater arrangement, 2-2-3.
686840 - body and roof colour - Montana Red, L30H, 40 - interior - black leatherette.
9199294 - 9 - 1969 model year, 199294 is the chassis number. |
Dear Dwill,
starting from your feedback I want to advise everyone it is very easy to make a mistake (even I did it in the past with a bus of a friend of mine!!) with a few lot of the latest m.y. 1969 (more or less from 2x9 150 000), they started to decode prod. date like the 70-ies.
Infact it's not possible that a so high number (near by 200 000) has been produced 22nd of febbruary: but the 22nd week of year 1969, 2nd day --> 27th may 1969 closer to end of m.y. 1969 taken in july!!!
It is very easy to made a mistake because Feb. and May are quite closer: so for '69 owners pay attention about this VIN number limit
(2x9) 150 000 !!!!
regards
need
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need
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The funniest thing is that serials around 150thousand buses of m.y. 1969 have been produced after half of March 1969 (more or less) and so let's assume someone have this number stamped on his m.y. '69 m-plate:
15 3 (prod date)
XXXX XX
XXXX XXX 9150123 (last part of VIN --> m.y. + serial number)
Okei 9 150123 means model year 1969 + s/n
But 15 3 !??!?!?!?!?!?!?!
As I told I don't know exaclty from which chassis number VW changed codification:
15 3 can be ....
15th week day 3rd --> 9th April 1969
OR
15 March 1969 ??!?!?!?!!?
199 thousand is quite far away and it's easier to understand it has the new codification, as well as numbers at least 20thousand lower than 150 000.
But what about the very last of the old codification and the very first of the new one??!?!?!??!
In particular, the case is restricted to the only day value that contains '3' on the third position: because for the old codification the third value will be always '3' (for that lot temporal production) and with the new, if you have a 150thusand s/n but a different digit in third pos, for sure we are in the presence of the 70-ies new codification!!!
Well ..another time...m.y. 1969 users pay attention!!!
Sorry for my bad english... hope you've undestood what I'm trying to explain!
ciao need!
P.S. : Check this information also here: http://www.type2.com/m-codes/t2date.html it's V. Molenari type 2 website,and it is one of the author of the book mentioned above.
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