Official "Ball Joint" lowering topic

DKKWorm · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:27 pm Post subject:

Okay, I have a 70 and just installed a 2" narrowed beam with drop spindles, had the tie rods shortened, installed disc brakes etc. Its all in and I paid an alignment shop to align it. It rolls, looks, and stops great. I now cannot turn right very well. The wheel turns 1.5 times left and only 1 time to the right. I have been over everything trying to fix this. I cut off the steering stop where the pitman arm used to slightly hit. I have wondered about changing the location of the steering box.... but how? And which way do I go? If I actually have to move the steering box, how do I end up attaching the steering wheel as it will be out of alignment. Will I have to re-do the geometry of the tie rods? No doubt I'll have to have it re-aligned again.

What do I do?

I am perplexed. How can I get more steer to the right?

W1K1 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject:

DKKWorm · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject:

W1K1 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject:

bugninva · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject:

r_beghetto · Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:25 am Post subject:

Hy Guys...
I leave in South of Brasil...

This is my bug 71!

135/70 and 195/65

before...

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after...
beam -8cm with new brakes..

[URL=http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=domingo022.jpg]

Check out our cars on the site www.RUSTEDLIVE.com

Thanks! Wink

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r_beghetto · Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject:

Video of my cars..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xyhfKroYzc

Wink

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BoomsVW · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

hey R_beghetto
what are those spring plate things for? and how well do they work for there intended purpose? ive never seen them before nice bug i have a 71 standard as well.
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69CalLookBeetle · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject:

bugninva · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject:

69CalLookBeetle · Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:

Questor

Hey y'all,

I have a '68 Beetle where I want to lower the front end. We purchased a pair of used Ghia ball joint drop spindles that lower about 2.5". We have already installed Koni adjustable front gas shocks, replaced the front brake drums with disk brakes, and plan on running 145 front tires. The H beam will remain original.

However, this forum topic does not seem to have detailed lowering info regarding early model Bugs like mine with the above specs.

1.) What problems have people experienced with lowering a '68 Bug front end?

2.) Where can I get a decent torsion bar jack other than Chinese manuf tools that are a safety concern? Can I use a early Bus rear torsion jack instead? (the one listed for sale on theSamba.com appears to be too tall)

3.) I assume that new extended ball joints and new wheel bearings will have to be installed, but what other parts are recommended to be replaced?

4.) The front end will likely have to be realligned after drop spindles are installed correctly... What dial-in specs do I need to provide a reallignment shop for this modified Bug front end suspension and steering?

Thanks in advance, Steve
Cincinnati, OH
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r_beghetto · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject:

Hy Guys!!!!

I think you refer to adjustable rear suspension?

Here:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?...ing+Plates

Then. This piece was made by me. Very easy to do, see here:

In my Bug:

http://www.airsouls.com/how-tos/adj_spr_plates.htm

Wink

Sorry for my bad english hehe! Very Happy

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Questor

Hello again,

I am trying to obtain tools needed to lower the front end of our '68 Beetle using ball joint drop spindles.

When I read that '68 OEM service manual, it recommends that a torsion bar jack be used to raise the front torsion bar so the steering knuckels can be removed and replaced. However, I am having problems finding a torsion bar jach to do this. An ebay vendor sells a "torsion bar jack" for VWs but it does not look anything like the OEM toolo...

Is there another way to safely raise the torsion bar & spring with an improvised jack so I can get at the steering knuckles?

Thanks, Steve
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yancyholden · Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:38 am Post subject:

just read through this thread and i didn't see this posted. if its a repeat sorry. for some of the questions about whether your tires will rub remember that the first number on the tire size (195 for example) is the width of the tread. i think in millimeters. the second smaller number (say 60) is a percentage of the width and is your sidewall height. the other number (15, 16, 24) is the size of the hole. if you have java then this link http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html will do the work for you. at that point you should be able to figure in shock travel and such to find out if your tires will rub based on the amount of space you have between the tire and the fender.
i dont know if any of that made any sense or is another one of my "captain obvious" moments. just thought i'd share.
and thanks to Glenn for starting this all off. most of my questions have been answered here.

Johnny Warren · Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:01 pm Post subject:

i have a 1970 standard beetle and i was wondering if i lower my car two clicks in the back, how wide of a tire/rim can i go with stock fenders? and in teh front how low can i go with stock tires?
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1952 · Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 4:11 pm Post subject:

1952 · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject:

cstishenko · Samba Member Joined: May 21, 2009 Posts: 19

69' Standard

Front:
2" narrowed beam
Puma Adjusters
2.5" drum drop spindles
135/65/15 Conti's
Monroe 37022 Shocks

Rear:
2 outer splines
Cut bumpstop plates
notched spring plates
Stock Shocks
165/65/15 Conti's


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