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Rain's Westy
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 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:23 pm Post subject: how many 55-58 23 windows still exist? |
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The othe day a friend of mine came over wile I was polishing the vent trim for my 56 23 window and asked me how many of these busses were still around...
I was suprized when I checked the production figures and realized how limited the production was in the years 55 throug 58
I got to thinking about it and realized how few I knew of ...
anyone care to make some wild guiestamates ?
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Andrew
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Nah, it's gotta be more like 87/88 of them...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:02 pm Post subject: .... |
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Lind
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just a guess, but I would say somewhere between 200 and 500. I think that I have easily seen 100 different ones in person or pictures.
compare it to the ratio '55-'58 deluxes to barndoor deluxes. I think that there are over 100 known barndoor deluxes. how many '55-'58s do you see for every barndoor that you see.
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Rain's Westy
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Thoes numbers fit with what I was thinking myself. I can think of about 15 of them that have come out of the woods in Washington in the 14 years I have lived here and of thoes most were sold out of the airea as the finder or owner eventualy gave up on fixing the bus because it was to big a project or was missing two many parts
As I have discoverd with mine the welding and sheet metal work these often need is a job not for the faint of heart! |
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Metalwizard
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| As I have discoverd with mine the welding and sheet metal work these often need is a job not for the faint of heart! |
Welcome to my world  I'm really gettin burned out on these crusty bastards. |
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DaveM
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I just want to find one built on Nov. 19, 1957.... come on people, let's see who can come up with that bus first 
vin# should be ~304273
I was originally considering any bus built on that day but the wife said she wanted the 'little skylight windows and the sun roof'.
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HallofFame
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| I'd guess alot more than 500. You can find at least 100 just by hunting various websites and see at least a handful at any good size VW show. There has to be alot more hiding in the bushes. I know of at least 5 55-58 23's just waiting to be plucked that other VW guys don't know about....how many undiscovered BD 23's do most people know about....my guess is none. |
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Yustrn
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| I'd guess alot more than 500. You can find at least 100 just by hunting various websites and see at least a handful at any good size VW show. There has to be alot more hiding in the bushes. I know of at least 5 55-58 23's just waiting to be plucked that other VW guys don't know about....how many undiscovered BD 23's do most people know about....my guess is none. |
Patrick, what day do you want me to show up with my truck and trailer? I just want 1 that would leave 4 more for you. 
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HallofFame
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Maybe after at least one of them is in my garage  I betcha Lind knows about even more |
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I just want to find one built on Nov. 19, 1957.... come on people, let's see who can come up with that bus first
vin# should be ~304273
I was originally considering any bus built on that day but the wife said she wanted the 'little skylight windows and the sun roof'. |
according to my research, due to the demands of the german textile industry, the week up to and including 11/19/1957 included only commercial vehicle manufacture. no passenger buses were produced in this period. she will have to "settle" for a sunroof kombi. |
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HallofFame
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| I'd guess alot more than 500. You can find at least 100 just by hunting various websites and see at least a handful at any good size VW show. There has to be alot more hiding in the bushes. I know of at least 5 55-58 23's just waiting to be plucked that other VW guys don't know about....how many undiscovered BD 23's do most people know about....my guess is none. |
Patrick, what day do you want me to show up with my truck and trailer? I just want 1 that would leave 4 more for you. |
You guys know how it goes with cars in barns and garages, knowing about them and checking them out is one thing....buying them is another  |
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Lind
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| HallofFame wrote: |
| I'd guess alot more than 500. You can find at least 100 just by hunting various websites and see at least a handful at any good size VW show. There has to be alot more hiding in the bushes. I know of at least 5 55-58 23's just waiting to be plucked that other VW guys don't know about....how many undiscovered BD 23's do most people know about....my guess is none. |
Patrick, what day do you want me to show up with my truck and trailer? I just want 1 that would leave 4 more for you. |
You guys know how it goes with cars in barns and garages, knowing about them and checking them out is one thing....buying them is another |
holy shit yeah, I know that. my latest score involved no less than six trips to a town 450 miles away before I even made contact with the owner of the buses. thankfully, we finally tracked him down and were able to exchange a large amount of cash for a large amount of buses. no early deluxes though. I do know of a few out there that haven't yet been scooped up.
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| DaveM wrote: |
I just want to find one built on Nov. 19, 1957.... come on people, let's see who can come up with that bus first
vin# should be ~304273
I was originally considering any bus built on that day but the wife said she wanted the 'little skylight windows and the sun roof'. |
according to my research, due to the demands of the german textile industry, the week up to and including 11/19/1957 included only commercial vehicle manufacture. no passenger buses were produced in this period. she will have to "settle" for a sunroof kombi. |
I would be interested in seeing that information. Assuming you are serious
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| DaveM wrote: |
I just want to find one built on Nov. 19, 1957.... come on people, let's see who can come up with that bus first
vin# should be ~304273
I was originally considering any bus built on that day but the wife said she wanted the 'little skylight windows and the sun roof'. |
according to my research, due to the demands of the german textile industry, the week up to and including 11/19/1957 included only commercial vehicle manufacture. no passenger buses were produced in this period. she will have to "settle" for a sunroof kombi. |
I would be interested in seeing that information. Assuming you are serious |
i must confess that i was in fact talking out of my ass. did it sound legit? if so, i may have to consider a new career path as a fiction writer! |
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DaveM
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I've run across a few 58's with vins that suggest a Nov 15th, '57 or so build date. And someone once showed me a picture of a dock in TX (i believe) that had a long line up of busses that were made in November. Someday I'll find it.
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| DaveM wrote: |
I just want to find one built on Nov. 19, 1957.... come on people, let's see who can come up with that bus first
vin# should be ~304273
I was originally considering any bus built on that day but the wife said she wanted the 'little skylight windows and the sun roof'. |
according to my research, due to the demands of the german textile industry, the week up to and including 11/19/1957 included only commercial vehicle manufacture. no passenger buses were produced in this period. she will have to "settle" for a sunroof kombi. |
I would be interested in seeing that information. Assuming you are serious |
i must confess that i was in fact talking out of my ass. did it sound legit? if so, i may have to consider a new career path as a fiction writer! |
It sounded legitimate except for the fact that VW had the resources to increase production pretty easily to match some temporary local need in 1957
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| There is a old long closed grils summer camp in Maine that had 4 23 window camp buses . The oldest a 54 or 55 barndoor was bought buy a vw repair shop in Mass. The other 3 were all from the 50's but not barndoors all were in good shape. I never found out the name of the camp But they are most likely still there. |
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I would be interested in seeing that information. Assuming you are serious |
That is the funniest f'n thing I think I have ever read on thesamba!!
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