Bus reduction boxes in bug

rws · Samba Member Joined: December 27, 2004 Posts: 2

Anyone out there running reduction boxes in their baja or rail? Im interested in this conversion for my off road buggy w/early type 3 torsion housing/springplates. Ive seen pics of the John johnson adaptors that lay the boxes flat which widens and lengthens the wheelbase a bit but I would like to install them upright to gain ground clearance. I think they had upright adaptors too... this guy has a set in his Baja...

http://www.c-zone.net/northgte/baja57.htm

Can i just fabricate new springplates out of my old ones that locate the boxes where I want them. What about leaning them a bit so I get some ground clearance AND a slightly longer wheel base. I have a donor 66 bus with everything. Any thoughts appreciated...

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Vanhag · Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject:

I'm running gear redux's on the back of the baja right now. They came with a redneck springplate adapter. I"m running them upright for the ground clearance. I absolutely love the gear ratio, especially because I'm into hill climbing and rock crawling. But they do have their drawbacks; horrible unsprung weight, massive wheel hop, more parts to break down the road.

It's a plus and minus. On my friends baja we're running a stock trans, soon to be a bus conversion. He drives his fast and wild, I drive mine relatively slow. My top speed is different and I am shifting gears more often. A lot of old timers used to use the gear redux bus trans because it was an inexpensive upgrade over stock. But now with custom built transaxles with custom gearing, there isn't such a need to use the redux setup anymore. I love my bus swingaxle but in the future I see a custom built IRS bus box with low gears and 3x3 or 4x4 trailing arms.
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rws · Samba Member Joined: December 27, 2004 Posts: 2

Thanks for the info. I plan to do a lot of climbing and slower technical stuff and like the idea of the lower gearing and instant ground clearance for low$$ My ride is an old school budget rail w/stock bug transaxle and 31s and it is good on the flat but struggles on the hills, I dont care how fast I get up the hill so long as I make it. Do the no-hop kits work? So are your springplates just made from the bug and bus ones? Thanks!

Vanhag · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject:

OK, so I wouldn't suggest making your own adapters, like the farmer brown setup I'm running. Get a set John Johnson adaptors.

Speaking of which, anyone have a set they want to sell me??

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BugZyla.com · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:

They are not the johnsons, But I make a good set ( I use them myself). They are cnc plasma cut from 3/16 steel, then welded in a jig. Go to http://www.bugzyla.com and click on the parts link. I have sold 7 sets so far with no complaints. RWS even owns a set. These are the upright version for lift. If somebody will send me detailed pics, I could fab some like the johnson adapters.
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Vanhag · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject:

Well buggeroo. I'm going to have to PM you. For $65 it sounds like a deal.
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Tim10 · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

Zylla... (or anyone)

Anyone have a setup for a Small nut tranny?????

I have spring plates... have the tranny... just need the adaptors.

T.
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Vanhag · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:

I just asked the same question in the chats. I was told they bolt up the same. Just different drums and ratios. I'll be getting a set of Alpine gear boxes to bolt up on mine.
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Jeremy1Kanobe · Samba Member Joined: October 27, 2004 Posts: 4

I have recently installed the Johnson kit with a big nut tranny and redux boxes in my manx. Besides the issue of unsprung weight the set up works awesome. By the way I have a small nut tranny with boxes and adapters for a type 1 chassis for sale cheap! Search the classifieds. I would love to get this stuff off the floor in my garage.

Tim10 · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:16 am Post subject:

Jeremy1Kanobe

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dickcharlton · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:26 pm Post subject:

I run gear reduction boxes and axles from a 57 bus with a built type 1 trans. I've done a custom doubled up spring plate with some upright adapters. I use suspension straps made from seatbelts and coil over shocks.
I love the setup except on the highway.
Offroad it kicks a$$.
It hops alot but it's half the fun.

Vanhag · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject:

BugZyla.com · Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:

Vanhag, You are correct. You have to flip the R&P Carrier to make it a reverse rotation.
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dvd8n · Samba Member Joined: May 28, 2005 Posts: 36

What's the difference between 'small nut' and 'big nut'?

Tim10 · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:05 am Post subject:

BugZyla.com · Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:41 am Post subject:

The small nut axles have a 36mm nut to hold the drum on, and the large nut has a 46mm nut to hold the drum on. Besides that, the large nut came in 63 1/2 and earlier buses, and the small nut 63 1/2 and later. The large nut axles are quite a bit stronger, and have a different mounting bolt pattern on the boxes. Tim10 Let me know if you get the adapters.
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Tim10 · Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:

Zyla

I sent the seller a PM... I'll have him send it directly to you for modification.

Jeremy1Kanobe.... you can email me from [email protected]

Tim
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Vanhag · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject:

Any updates? I'm anxious to get the baja back on the road.
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BugZyla.com · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:05 am Post subject:

I havnt received anything yet. Tim....You will need my shipping address.

Axis Performance
529 E. Juanita Ave. Suite 1
Mesa AZ 85204

480-444-2558
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Tim10 · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:33 pm Post subject:

Zylla.

RWS refuses to sell the mounts... if we could find someone in Cali, maybe they could buy them (I'll pay) then send them to you.

Still interested.

T.
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