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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:57 am    Post subject: Scat Lube lifters Reply with quote

Anyone used the Scat Lube Lifters? Any pro's or con's?
I've seen a lot of crappy looking stock lifters and if the really work, the price seems minimal.

Any info would be great!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havn't used any. They came out right after I bought my last two sets. I did read in one of these fourms last week. that somebody lost a lift/cam using the lube a lobe< but was it the lifter or the cam ??? There the same lifter, just with a hole. FYI do you know scats stuff is made in china or tiwan. I had order some rods and was waiting. I called to whats up. I was told there contianer of blanks got sent to texas by mistake. Well if they have a container of blanks being shipped to them. This came from oversea's Not to hard to figure out which sea
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn, i was hopeing to hear good news about them... Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh hey sorry thats not bad news. I don't know of a hot engine builder here that has been using them, but I havn't seen him lately. Think of how many sets they have sold. I think it's been over two years now and I,ve only read one bad report on the net. My guess it was his fualt
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a big letter writeen by the president of Scat in a recent hot rod magazine talking about parts being made overseas. you should read it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TimberwolfZ28 wrote:
There is a big letter writeen by the president of Scat in a recent hot rod magazine talking about parts being made overseas. you should read it.

Kinda hard for us to read it if you don't tell us what title it is in.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of Scats working fine so far one year but I don't sit and idle very long and I use a deep sump..... don't know if that has anything to do with it.

From what I have been reading, I am heading for trouble but can't see it smart to swap around or change lifters that have already been nicely broken in to my cam.

I re-used the same mfr supplied assembly lube and Dumped my oil after two passes to get out all the gritty moly lube from rod bolt torque and scuffed off iron from the piston rings/bores or any dirt/dog hair I may have missed on assembly.

It usually takes a few oil changes to get the break in stuff out. Wipe out the pan if you can pull it off, but don't go in to shock over what you see come out of there. My dog gets around.... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weracemo wrote:
I have a set of Scats working fine so far one year....

Since your engine is still together, you really have no idea if your lifters are pitted or not.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the best lifters out there?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
TimberwolfZ28 wrote:
There is a big letter writeen by the president of Scat in a recent hot rod magazine talking about parts being made overseas. you should read it.

Kinda hard for us to read it if you don't tell us what title it is in.

"HOT Rod" magazine. Sorry, guess I should have capitalized. Can't recall what month, possibly June or July... but it's the issue with the General Lee on the cover. It's in the Letters section in response to a previous article or letter by someone else who complained about speed parts being imported.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard Scat is going to change the to "Lose a lobe" lifters. Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so does this mean their other lifters are junk too???
i think their called pro lifters (or performance lifters)????
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
weracemo wrote:
I have a set of Scats working fine so far one year....

Since your engine is still together, you really have no idea if your lifters are pitted or not.


I do freshen up my motor every year. And I reused my cam and lifters like I said in my post.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's no mystery that regular untouched Scat lifters have a pitting problem, but if they've been reground by SLR, they don't seem to have any problem at all. I broke mine in (SLR reground Scat lifters) with K-800 springs and (as things seem to have gone this year) both times i've pulled my motor down this summer they've looked absolutley perfect.

I have had a set of non-SLR'd scat lifters pit to hell on me though. $30 to have them reground and parkerized is cheap insurance to me.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eaallred, that has to be the best option for lifters offered in this thread.

I think I will do the same on my next tear down but they stay as is for now. They were in really great shape when I tore my motor down about two months ago so I will take that advice when the time comes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eaallred wrote:
It's no mystery that regular untouched Scat lifters have a pitting problem, but if they've been reground by SLR, they don't seem to have any problem at all. I broke mine in (SLR reground Scat lifters) with K-800 springs and (as things seem to have gone this year) both times i've pulled my motor down this summer they've looked absolutley perfect.

I have had a set of non-SLR'd scat lifters pit to hell on me though. $30 to have them reground and parkerized is cheap insurance to me.


Do you happen to have a link or phone number for SLR?
Thanks. I too have a set of SCAT lifters, both the light weight racing lifters and the lube a lobe. Still brand new and if I'm going to use either one, I want them to last.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eaallred wrote:
It's no mystery that regular untouched Scat lifters have a pitting problem, but if they've been reground by SLR, they don't seem to have any problem at all. I broke mine in (SLR reground Scat lifters) with K-800 springs and (as things seem to have gone this year) both times i've pulled my motor down this summer they've looked absolutley perfect.

I have had a set of non-SLR'd scat lifters pit to hell on me though. $30 to have them reground and parkerized is cheap insurance to me.


Eric,

is this a daily driver?? how many miles???

A dedicated racer or a weekend warrior will have less issues than an engine with many brutal street miles with stop and go traffic.

A friend of mine in his 10 second bracket racing beetle uses the scat lifters (non slr'd) and he has some minor/minimal pitting but he doesn't care since he swaps his cam every year regardless of how it looks.

Its not unheard of scats even when slr'd going south pitting severely. I broke in my cb resurfaced scat lifters with chevy duals and they looked beautiful but then 3000miles later they looked horrible.

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both times i've pulled my motor down this summer they've looked absolutley perfect.


Thats very common to see but in one summer I hardly think you have many miles to test the true integrity of that lifter.

IF your running k800's I'd imagine this engine has very few street miles. Street miles is the true test. Weekend warriors and drag cars dont have enough street miles. Give it street miles and you'll start to get the ugly center pit and it'll work its way bigger and bigger.

My point is that if thousands of people experience severly pitted lifters its due to the material of the lifter along with horrible QC of the lifters head. SLR will prevent the inevitable for a longer period time but the lifter itself is the problem. Machining of the lifter head is only 1 factor. This doesn't change the root of the problem which is the material used to making the lifters.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about bugpack or CB performance lifters?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you mean "IF" i'm running K-800's? I AM running K-800's.

So if hellacious spring pressures, heavy pushrods and heavy valves (48mm) spinning easily to 8000rpm isn't hard on a lifter, but running single HD springs is, I guess I better go back to the drawing board. My SLR'd Scat lifters have been in my motor since the beginning of last season and are on a third cam. First cam broke in half. Installed a second cam and it went flat on break in. Lifters still looked good, so now they're being run with yet another cam and so far so good.

And to give you an idea of the stress my valvetrain is going through, i've snapped three rocker arms in half this year so far. No clearance issues either. That's all spring pressure and moving heavy components around. If the lifters are holding up to what i'm doing to them, then I will absolutley stand behind my statement that when SLR regrinds them they work incredibly well.

Or, another way you can look at it is we sell regular Scat lifters and SLR'd Scat lifters where I work. We have (of course) had some returns on the non-SLR'd lifters due to pitting. I can't remember the last time an SLR'd lifter came back to us. It's been a long, long time (just by my memory, I think we've had one set in a few years). Just keep in mind, that's a LOT of SLR'd lifters we've shipping out to a LOT of different people running a LOT of different motor combinations. The track record from what we've seen is phenominal just from our customer base alone. Then what i've put these lifters through is just icing on the cake for me to make up my mind.

But if you don't like them, that's fine. I do like them. We have to "agree to disagree" and that's alright. From what i've seen first hand, they're perfectly fine in my book.
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