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		jonathon  Samba Member
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Fiberglass Split Window Kit | 
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				Vw Innovations offers a split window kit in fiberglass that fits into the original rear window with removal of the grill.  Does anyone have experience with these kits?  Would it be impossible to find a headliner to fit if I installed it into a steel sunroof '64?   
 
 
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		ScrapJunkie  (O\U|U/O)
  
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Stop thinking right now. _________________ (O\U|U/O) Top Vw (o\UU/o) | 
			 
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		metaljim  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				fiberglass = the suck
 
 
'glass split window kit in a 64 = REALLY FUCKING BAD IDEA _________________ I still need a black 67 T-1 hood. | 
			 
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		KantDriveFast  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:59 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| My experience with them consists of : :"Man, what a stupid thing to do to a Beetle. " | 
			 
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		6d7vdub  Samba Slacker
  
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Go for it!!  Also, you should put some of those big super beetle tail lights on so people can see you better.  Oh, and bondo that metal sunroof closed, those things are played out. _________________ Bill
 
 
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		jonathon  Samba Member
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I didn't expect such a strong response.  I have seen some other mods that seem way worse than a split window.  Does anyone have any real-life experience with these? | 
			 
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		Kubel Nick  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:04 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Fiberglass and metal expand at a different rate, so when bonding the two together there's a good chance the paint may split where the 2 meets.  To minimize this screw in bolts every foot or so around to keep the 'glass from moving.  You can try industrial glue as well to help them bond, alot of people may not liek glue but it's been used for decades for airplane chassis, boat chassis and car chassis buildups instead of welding.  Then finish off like any other bodywork. | 
			 
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		Dustin72Supr  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject:  | 
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				ive seen a popout window for the back that looks like a split window, anybody know where to get these?
 
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		KaferBus  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	   ive seen a popout window for the back that looks like a split window, anybody know where to get these?
 
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That's kinda cool!!! _________________ 1957 Oval
 
1965 Kombi
 
1969 Beetle
 
69 Deluxe Bus
 
1971 Super Beetle | 
			 
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		lucille66  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| What's so wrong about grafting a split window in? I see all kinds of bugs with all kinds of grafts, including sunroofs and sliding ragtops. But everyone gives props when they do that, so what's the big deal if this guy wants to make his rear window look like a split? It's just a friggin window for petes sake. | 
			 
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		lucille66  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Anyhow, I'm not here to start a war....I say go for it, bro. It's your car and your style. Fuck the haters. | 
			 
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		Culito  11010101
  
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				 Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Fiberglass is for boats. _________________ © CJ Industries, Inc.
 
'64 standard w/2.0L type 4
 
'62 bug
 
 
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	  |  ...dont pay no attention to Culito,he's a cornhole.. | 
	 
 
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		Joey  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject:  | 
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				If you're gonna do it use metal and weld it in. Get a 'W' deck lid and the proper tail lights to complete the package or it'll look funny. _________________ Joey
 
 
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle | 
			 
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		bill may  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:26 am    Post subject:  | 
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				i owned a 1952 beetle for 18 years. i hated driving because of limited rear vision. i drove it maybe 200 miles in that time.
 
i upgraded to a 57 oval and drove that for 5 1/2 years. replaced it with a 61 ragtop (my favorite beetle) then i started driving 67 beetles and never looked back. i now drive a 65 bus with camper interior 365 days a year. _________________ Admin note: Bill Passed away - July, 2017
 
 
1965 panel bus-Kermit
 
"Camping is cheaper than therapy"
 
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		58Dub  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:09 am    Post subject:  | 
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				the best way would be to graft a metal oval window clip in...  Then add a metal kit to change an oval to a split.  I've seen the kits in the classifides.  Not the cheapest mod, but would be the best way to do it. _________________ 58 Beetle (now just a pile of parts in the corner)
 
60 Beetle (2221 turbo under construction)
 
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		KaferBus  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I got my first beetle in 06 and it was a 69 beetle. I wanted a Kommanderwagen so bad that I bought one of those fiberglass kits and had it installed by one of the guys that works for the kubelKar company. 
 
 
Now this was my first bug ever.....and I learned a valuable lesson from it. I should not have changed it....as mentioned before, visibility went out the door! Also, after 6 months.....a noticeable crack started to form around the seam where the fiberglass met the metal. 
 
 
 
 
Also...if you do this to a later bug the windows don't look right....the front and sides are just to big! I wish I never would have done it.....but I did and yet I still love the little wagen.....she is getting a total makeover....getting sanded down, repainted nice & shiny as we speak. Just cause I made a horrible mistake in cutting her up....does not mean I don't love her anymore.....I am going to get years of enjoyment from this car!
 
 
Metal is the way to go.....fiberglass bad!
 
 
Since I got this car, we also got a 65' Bus, 71' Super Beetle and a 57' Oval....all are our daily drivers! _________________ 1957 Oval
 
1965 Kombi
 
1969 Beetle
 
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		VOLKSWAGNUT  Fastest VW Belt Changer
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I'm a proponent of do your own thing. If you like it thats really all that's important. It may  hurt any resale though. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
 
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud 
 
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
 
Its about the going not the showing
 
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
 
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Search "VOLKSWAGNUT" on YouTube since you cant watch a "certain" BELT change video round here
 
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		Joey  Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The limited rear vision thing is true - I drive my big windowed '65 more that my '56 oval because of it. _________________ Joey
 
 
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		Dropped Metal Customs  Samba Member
 
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				25 years ago you would of had a different opinion from most people, trends change back then moding a bug was all in fashion and it would have been cool but fast forward to present time and most people are restoring them to near stock _________________ BUSDROPPINGBEAMNARROWINGSTEERINGBOXRAISING"C"NOTCHINGRUSTREPAIRINGBEETLEDROPPING
 
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		shano63   Samba Member
  
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				 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	   I got my first beetle in 06 and it was a 69 beetle. I wanted a Kommanderwagen so bad that I bought one of those fiberglass kits and had it installed by one of the guys that works for the kubelKar company. 
 
 
Now this was my first bug ever.....and I learned a valuable lesson from it. I should not have changed it....as mentioned before, visibility went out the door! Also, after 6 months.....a noticeable crack started to form around the seam where the fiberglass met the metal. 
 
 
 
 
Also...if you do this to a later bug the windows don't look right....the front and sides are just to big! I wish I never would have done it.....but I did and yet I still love the little wagen.....she is getting a total makeover....getting sanded down, repainted nice & shiny as we speak. Just cause I made a horrible mistake in cutting her up....does not mean I don't love her anymore.....I am going to get years of enjoyment from this car!
 
 
Metal is the way to go.....fiberglass bad!
 
 
Since I got this car, we also got a 65' Bus, 71' Super Beetle and a 57' Oval....all are our daily drivers! | 
	 
 
 
 
X2 on this.  I did the same thing and you just about summed up how I feel as well...  Too funny... _________________ 63 T1 Ragtop Gulf Blue
 
20 Toyota Corolla 6spd
 
22 Wrangler 6spd
 
78 F250 4x4 4spd
 
 
Chris
 
 
Take it as it comes-- Morrison | 
			 
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