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Chewie Baker Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 102 Location: West Midlands, England
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: SO42 Big Top Tent |
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Can anyone post a picture of the original pole bag please.
Was there only one design or was it a case of different designs with the different door flap pattern?
Cheers - Martin |
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1244
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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I have seen 4 diffrent big tops styles three with the normal colored front awnig one with diffrent colors all together. I think if you do a seach you will find all these listed as well as the bags. |
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abuspilot Samba Member

Joined: January 19, 2002 Posts: 1012 Location: Mentally, I'm in Michigan
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Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Martin, check out this thread. This shows the only three different front awnings I know of. Which one do you have?? Sorry can't help you with the pole bag. I friend got a big top last summer also, his pole bag I think was original and a vinyl type material. Do you have the original tent bag? What about the stake and peg bag? If you do post some pics. I'd love to see them.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122140&highlight= |
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Chewie Baker Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 102 Location: West Midlands, England
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BarryL  Samba Member

Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 15086 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: |
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How close to Big Top poles are Bay Poles? |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma

Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9016 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have my original pole bag, early 67 tent. It is badly faded coated canvas material. The closest available replacement material is a medium blue sunbrella fabric, and that is what my mother used when she sewed up a replacement bag. I think the blue of the original bag was a bit more drab than what we used to replace it, but I could not find anything on the market that was that exact color.
The problem with these bags is they just aren't a very heavy material, and there is a lot of weight in the bag with all the poles. Plus the poles are pointed on the bottom and it just rips the bottom of the bag out, even though the bottom is double layered. If you wanted to avoid that, you could sandwich a piece of plastic in the bottom to spread out the strain on the nylon from the points of the poles. I was thinking that a good material would be that thin plastic stuff that 3 ring binders are sometimes made of. Flexible enough for a bag, tough, and cheap.
PM me if anyone needs a photo of my pole bag and replacement bag. It is buried but I will dig it out and photo it if necessary |
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Craig Samba Member

Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 767 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1244
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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westfalia used what ever was left over for the bags I have seen them in all the colors and even the early .striped tent fabric for the flip hatch tents. |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma

Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9016 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have what you have but it appears to me to be a coated canvas. |
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[email protected] Samba Member

Joined: September 22, 2002 Posts: 1244
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think the coated canvas is from the left over botom part of the tent.
on one of my Big tops pole bag its the same as the botom og the tent. |
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abuspilot Samba Member

Joined: January 19, 2002 Posts: 1012 Location: Mentally, I'm in Michigan
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with Jim, based on the things I've seen they used left over material for bags. Martin, PM gunter his name is Steve, he has an original bag just like Craig's. BTW, Craig's tent has the best front awning!!!!!!!!!! IMO I'll get a pick posted of my og tent bag sometime this wknd or by Mon. |
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Craig Samba Member

Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 767 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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Major Woody wrote: |
I have what you have but it appears to me to be a coated canvas. |
Yeah, coated canvas would describe it accurately. I just took a look at a torn place. The inside of the bag is of charcoal gray colored vinyl/rubber covering a cloth fabric latice under the blue vinyl/rubber of the exterior. It's familiar -- like older foul weather raincoats used by commercial fishermen, but I can't think of a modern comparision. I tried, but I didn't get a good picture of the tear in the fabric. |
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Gunter Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: Toledo, Ohio / Herzogenaurach, Germany
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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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I'll take a pic of my original bag for you tomorrow. I just got the Dormobile out from winter storage. The material I believe is the same as the bottom of the tent. The stake bag is a yellow nylon canvas material that is not the same color or material that the tent is made from.
Gunter _________________ 7 air-cooled VW's |
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Gunter Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: Toledo, Ohio / Herzogenaurach, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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The pictures of my tent bag are in the gallery. Don't know how to post them here. The bag is the exact same material as the bottom of my tent.
There is no inside fabric attached. It is just the same blue material as on the outside bottom of the tent..
Not the best material for holding the poles.
Gunter _________________ 7 air-cooled VW's |
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Gunter Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: Toledo, Ohio / Herzogenaurach, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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Third time. Hopefully it works.
Original tent bag for Big Top Tent _________________ 7 air-cooled VW's |
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Gunter Samba Member

Joined: February 21, 2004 Posts: 111 Location: Toledo, Ohio / Herzogenaurach, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the other photo showing the inside of the material.
Hope it helps. _________________ 7 air-cooled VW's |
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Chewie Baker Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 102 Location: West Midlands, England
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Here you go Marc - my og big top, with the 3rd type of striped front compared to yours and Craigs. |
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Chewie Baker Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 102 Location: West Midlands, England
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: |
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As far as i know this is the original tent bag. |
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Chewie Baker Samba Member

Joined: April 10, 2005 Posts: 102 Location: West Midlands, England
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: |
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And this is the Big top replica prototype from The Baron in Malvern, U.K.
Pretty impressive! |
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abuspilot Samba Member

Joined: January 19, 2002 Posts: 1012 Location: Mentally, I'm in Michigan
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Chewie Baker wrote: |
As far as i know this is the original tent bag. |
Very cool awning, not as common as the repro style. You did good!! Your tent bag is og, the same as mine.
So how much is The Baron going to ask, is the production going to happen??? I might be interested in just the canvas w/ no poles.. Thanks for the pics.. |
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