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Saggs Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 669 Location: Lincolnton, NC
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: Stock cooling tin with "J" pipes? |
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I have a stock 1600 sp w/ dual carbs I'm building. It currently has all the stock tin w/ a dog house. The heater boxes are junk and I won't be needing them as I only run it in the summer. Question is, with the "J" pipes taking the place of the fatter heater box, do I need some extra tin to cover the large gap left where the heater box was? Didn't know if this large gap would affect cooling ability of the engine? _________________ "One man can make a difference...Jesus did." |
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6D2 SBS Hit Squad

Joined: August 04, 2004 Posts: 1039 Location: Tampa, Floriduh
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Im running a 1600 dp. I replaced my heaterboxes about a month ago with j-tubes. it seems to run better then before and I didn't add any extra tin. the freakin heater boxes weigh a ton.. I think one of those is as heavy as my whole new exhaust.. (single tip monza) _________________ Chris
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TinCanFab Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 2743 Location: Waterford, California
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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if you have the tin you should run it. some j tubes have tabs that hang off of them to attach the tins. the ones i see look like 2 skinny strips of sheet metal a couple inches long. |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79430 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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You need 73 Thing lower tins.
_________________ Glenn
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GregZA Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2005 Posts: 75 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Glenn,
you wouldn't happen to have dimensions on those would you?
They look easy enough to fabricate, but it would be much easier if one knew what sort of dimensions will actually fit.
I take these are for a 73 with a gas heater setup.
It seems these bits of tin would be most useful to a lot of us who are no longer running the std heater setup and certainly much more useful in terms of cooling than just bolting the j-plates to the j-tubes.
Cheers
Greg
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Saggs Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2003 Posts: 669 Location: Lincolnton, NC
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Looks like Glenn is on the money...again. I think I'll fabricate a pair for my motor. This would also keep the thermostat running properly I think. Here's another question. Does the later stock doghouse thermostat have a longer stroke than the earlier-non doghouse setup? Was wondering cause my doghouse flaps need like twice the travel on the actuator rod to open them than do the earlier air flap setup??? Any ideas?? _________________ "One man can make a difference...Jesus did." |
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79430 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Gene Berg sells copies called "Industrial Shields" I think the part numbers are GB-4700R and GB-4700L. _________________ Glenn
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Bren Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 368 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone else carry these tins? Berg does not seem to have them on their site anylonger?
Any one have dimensions for these? They look easy enough to make. _________________ 1967 Beetle, 1971 Bay Window Westy, 1972 Super Beetle, 1970 Drag Beetle, 1976 Porsche 912E
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Bren wrote: |
Any one have dimensions for these? |
Yes. Got this from one of Glenn's posts.
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They look easy enough to make. |
That's what I thought. I'm planning on doing it when I build my 1915 with Sidewinder. |
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128vw Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006 Posts: 222 Location: Western Massachusetts
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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I think you should check your measurments. One side is a different length than the other, otherwise the same. So I found out as I made a left and right as mirror of each other and one fit and one was too short. |
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spanky324 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: Greeley Pa
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Gene Berg sells copies called "Industrial Shields" I think the part numbers are GB-4700R and GB-4700L. |
GB 7400R and GB7400L I just ordered them yesterday 51.00 delivered to your door!! |
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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128vw wrote: |
I think you should check your measurments. One side is a different length than the other, otherwise the same. So I found out as I made a left and right as mirror of each other and one fit and one was too short. |
So which side corresponds to the measurements posted above? What are the new ones? |
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Bren Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 368 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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$51. Wow, that seems expensive!
Has anyone got dimensions for both sides?
Seems to me I could make these up much cheaper. Having dimensions would help. Though I bet they could be fabbed up without them if necessary.
Anyone made their own yet? _________________ 1967 Beetle, 1971 Bay Window Westy, 1972 Super Beetle, 1970 Drag Beetle, 1976 Porsche 912E
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Glenn  Mr. 010

Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 79430 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Bren wrote: |
Has anyone got dimensions for both sides? |
I'm away from home for a few day, but give me time and i'll draw up the other one. _________________ Glenn
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Sigurd Samba Member
Joined: April 18, 2006 Posts: 2639 Location: Rockford, IL
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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That would be great, Glenn. Thanks! |
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spanky324 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2006 Posts: 1070 Location: Greeley Pa
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Bren wrote: |
$51. Wow, that seems expensive!
Has anyone got dimensions for both sides?
Seems to me I could make these up much cheaper. Having dimensions would help. Though I bet they could be fabbed up without them if necessary.
Anyone made their own yet? |
Sorry it is 41.52 not 51.00(33.00 plus shipping) |
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Bren Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 368 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the clarification. Still seems high.
I will wait for Glenn's other drawing and try my hand at making my own. Can't be that difficult. _________________ 1967 Beetle, 1971 Bay Window Westy, 1972 Super Beetle, 1970 Drag Beetle, 1976 Porsche 912E
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vwracerdave Samba Member

Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15599 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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I bet the drawing is the same for both sides. You just flip the drawing over and bend them in the opposite direction. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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Bren Samba Member

Joined: September 21, 2003 Posts: 368 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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128vw tried making both to the same dimensions and one was too short according to his earlier post. Too cold in my garage to go verify! _________________ 1967 Beetle, 1971 Bay Window Westy, 1972 Super Beetle, 1970 Drag Beetle, 1976 Porsche 912E
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