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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: mystery roofrack - rack restore questions. Reply with quote

i purchased a roofrack a week ago that looks nothing like any of the ones i usually see. i cant read the logo thats stamped into it yet, but it was built in munchen, Germany. the logo is a circle with an H on the top, and an M on the bottom, and some text in the middle. i'll take pictures in the next few days.

the wood slats are gone, but i'm not worried about reproducing them. its the rivets i'm worried about. i want to take the rack apart and get it sand blasted, then powdercoated. the rivets are not simple pop rivets, and i need to figure out how or what to replace them with. has anyone done any kind of rivet works, or had a rack restored/ restored one personally?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's anything like my original VW rack those are hard rivets. They would have been attached with a tool like a press.

I've replaced a slat in mine and I notched the slat so it would fit with the rivet.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:28 am    Post subject: rivits Reply with quote

bugformance in sacramento has the replacement rivit kits so you should be able to get them at other places
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

munchen, Germany is what we call Munich.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is useless with out pics sorry...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: rivits Reply with quote

toogoodbeingbad wrote:
bugformance in sacramento has the replacement rivit kits so you should be able to get them at other places


yah bugformance in sac is a great place, everyone is so nice there.
if you need help with anything, they are there!

helped me with my full disc brake kit!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: rivits Reply with quote

dog_jr911 wrote:
toogoodbeingbad wrote:
bugformance in sacramento has the replacement rivit kits so you should be able to get them at other places


yah bugformance in sac is a great place, everyone is so nice there.
if you need help with anything, they are there!

helped me with my full disc brake kit!


I'll second that, they have alot of good German parts in stock. They cost a little more, but soooo worth it! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: rivits Reply with quote

toogoodbeingbad wrote:
bugformance in sacramento has the replacement rivit kits so you should be able to get them at other places


these guys?
http://www.bugformancesuperstore.com/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats the place. or if you have a farm/hardware place you can just match up the rivits for less. i looked at the kit today and it has rivits and other hardware that i dont think would fit that rack. nice looking rack anyways
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.....and the winner is.....Herkules. And it looks like it a special for sunroof Beetles. NIce find. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats great! after a search i didnt find any more info on the samba about it, do you, or anyone else know anymore about them? from the picture i'll be able to reproduce the rack slats in near correct proportions. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: wow Reply with quote

I own what must be the sedan version of that rack, its missing one of the clamps (same style as pictured), and it uses the rubber suction cup feet which are embossed with "Herkules" as well, I made a copy of these since I was also missing one of the cups. Hoping to replicate the missing clamp this winter so I can install the rack next summer.

Thanks for posting the catalog shot, that helps to validate these as period rare roof racks! Occasionally I thumb through the Foreign Car magazines of the 50's and 60's and I'm frankly amazed at the hundreds of things I discover that were made for these cars in addition to the the Hella, Perohaus, GHE Happich, Kamei, and other accessory makers.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: wow Reply with quote

this must be your roof rack pictured here (although bigger, and not on a beetle):
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from here:
http://www.kdf-wagen.de/brochures/brl.php?s=1950
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the cheap bought at the parts house in modesto $100 version i got 5 or 6 years ago.nothing near as nice as the ones you two have.the bugformance ones look better constructed than mine but not even in the same league as that german one.what a great find.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Re: wow Reply with quote

ajbancroft wrote:
this must be your roof rack pictured here (although bigger, and not on a beetle):
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from here:
http://www.kdf-wagen.de/brochures/brl.php?s=1950


Here's mine, and I would agree that with the suction cups what you really get is more of a universal roof fit, nice advantage if you had owned a couple different cars at home. This rack however I have is about the same size as a factory vw rack. Theres another closer shot of the wood in my gallery with specs on how to make replacements fyi.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted a pic of my Herkules rack in the Gallery section a few years ago. Very nice to know more info about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: mystery roofrack - rack restore questions. Reply with quote

Old post revival, but I refinished this right after you all helped me!


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