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pedro sainz Samba Member

Joined: July 26, 2005 Posts: 1442
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: Beauty Rings |
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There is TWO kinds
of the Beauty Rings (EARLY TYPE)
Original EARLY Type 3 is Thin
NOT that DEEP around the edge
show ALL your Beauty Rings
you will SEE what I'm talking about _________________ 68 T34 1600 Automatic
62 T34 Cabriolet Prototype
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member

Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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My 69 came with beauty rings, but they were T-1's. So I took them off.
I woon a set of used T-34 rings on Ebay, but the seller wanted cash. Like a dummy, I sent cash and never got the rings.
So, I am still looking for T-3 rings. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
Gary: OK. Ima poop. |
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71471 Location: Phoenix 602
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blankmange Type 3 Darksider

Joined: July 17, 2004 Posts: 11498 Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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if I remember correctly, it's the slots that are different... _________________ póg mo thóin
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pedro sainz Samba Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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EverettB wrote: |
What's the difference between Beetle and Type 3 rings? I thought all 4-lug rings were the same. |
YES the 4 lugs Beauty Rings those are the SAME
BUT the early type 3 (8 slots ) like picture above
they are two different set ups _________________ 68 T34 1600 Automatic
62 T34 Cabriolet Prototype
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member

Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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No, they are not. There is a difference due to the wheel offset. 46mm vs 34mm.
T-1 rings on T-3 wheels will not tuck in tight to the rim. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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wolfman's brother Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2003 Posts: 1149
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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trim ring 1-set purchased from pedro
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wolfman's brother Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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trim ring 2-another NOS set,different slots.forgot where I got these,oz maybe.
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wolfman's brother Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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side by side comparison.see the difference,even in the valve stem hole.
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EverettB  Administrator

Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 71471 Location: Phoenix 602
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Russ Wolfe wrote: |
No, they are not. There is a difference due to the wheel offset. 46mm vs 34mm.
T-1 rings on T-3 wheels will not tuck in tight to the rim. |
Thanks.
Wow, I must have gotten lucky on my '67. I bought a couple replacement trim rings at a a swap meet and they matched the originals perfectly. _________________ How to Post Photos
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blankmange Type 3 Darksider

Joined: July 17, 2004 Posts: 11498 Location: Bloßer Stahl-preapocalyptic MidCoast
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Russ Wolfe wrote: |
No, they are not. There is a difference due to the wheel offset. 46mm vs 34mm.
T-1 rings on T-3 wheels will not tuck in tight to the rim. |
yep--thank you for reminding me, Russ; I bent the hell out of a repop trim ring trying to get it to fit a Type 1 wheel a couple of years ago...
BTW, guys, the repopped trim rings from MidAmerica are really thin metal! _________________ póg mo thóin
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Houstonr Samba Member

Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone have a picture of the later style T3 rings next to the T1 rings? curious to see the difference as I am looking for a set as we speak |
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member

Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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The offset is the main difference.
T-1's are a flatter wheel. The T-1 trim ring will not lay against the wheel right. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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Adriel Rowley Samba Member
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66311 Samba Member

Joined: December 31, 2006 Posts: 1477 Location: Olive Branch MS
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have some aftermarket. I need to check and see if they are type3. If they are I'll let them go. |
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MOCHABILL Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2008 Posts: 584 Location: BY THE BAY
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toiletfish Samba Member

Joined: October 02, 2009 Posts: 24 Location: AR
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I like those. I'm also interested in finding out if these will indeed work. |
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Russ Wolfe Samba Member

Joined: October 08, 2004 Posts: 25187 Location: Central Iowa
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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Those are not offset dependent. _________________ Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you end up with a lot of scum on the top!--Edward Abbey
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VW-Variant-L Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006 Posts: 160 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Due to the offset difference, when T3 rings are placed on T1 beetle rims the centre of the trims doesn't seat on the metal but is 12mm above the centre seat of the rim ( so you can't fit the hubcaps).
Beetle rings conversely sit 12mm out from the outer rim edge when placed on type 3 rims ( but the hubcaps will fit).
An easy way to check: Looking at Type 3 rings from the side the centre is visible 2-3 mm further out than the outside edge, whereas T1 sit below. |
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Houstonr Samba Member

Joined: February 01, 2009 Posts: 399 Location: Frisco Texas
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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thanks guys.. I was just wondering if anyone had some comparison shots of the later type 3 rings. (4 lug).
I am having difficultly determining if any of the classifieds are the correct ones. I do have T3 rims so I want the right rings.
thanks!
so if I am looking at these two pictures.. and making an educated guess...
Picture 1: this looks to be a correct T3/Ghia trim ring ... you can see that it fits snug and the valve stem seems to come close to the center most point of the slot
Now in this color picture.. I am guessing these are likely bug or aftermarket trim rings... they dont appear to be too tight, and you can see the valve stem is nearly resting on the outermost portion of the hole.
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