Type 87 in Austria

[HerrrKafer]

Does anyone know anything about this supposed Type 87 I spotted in a museum this weekend? Is Kommandeurwagen the correct name (I thought that was for the 82E)? Shouldn't the engine be 985cc? It has a 4WD chassis, but the body does not appear to be of correct vintage. The wider fenders look right, though. I chatted briefly with the owner but didn't understand too much of what he said because he only spoke German, and my German is very marginal. I think he said the car was the very first one build for Rommel and was used by a ski resort after the war. He bought it in 1986.

Dash is late 40's, right?

Not the right rear window inner pressing?

The 4WD stuff was cool:

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Evan H.

[johnshenry]

... and the sem switch is upside down.


Pretty cool looking replica though, I like the paint finish. Nothing wrong with the inaccuracies unless someone is presenting (or selling) it as an "original"


Every time I see those pics taken in a museum I remember how I got yelled by the security guard at the Henry Ford museum for stepping over the ropes and taking pics of the lower engine tin on a '51 they have there....

My son was with me, about 12 at the time, and SO embarrassed...
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John Henry

'57 Deluxe
'56 Single Cab

[Martenni]

[HerrrKafer]

You're right.
We'd better just ignore the part about the conversation.
Still interested if this could be an original Type 87 pan.
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Evan H.

[RichOakley]

[splitjunkie]

horn button is wrong.
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Chris

You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld

[beetlekey]

What is right??
Marcus

[ZwitterND]

The opposite of left?

Sorry, forgive me, I have no control
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Bill

[Minuet]

[Bruce]

[Tempie]

[HerrrKafer]

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Evan H.

[tstracy39]

So does anyone know if this is authentic, or a reproduction built using Schwimmwagen running gear? If anyone knows, it should be you guys.
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[Björn Schewe]

The car in the Gmünd collection was found just after the war in a couole of Wehrmacht vehicles. In reason of no title, it got a new ID- Number by Denzel in 1948. During the years, it got a new body. When I sae the car at first time, I also thought that it was just a replica, but then my friend Dieter Krebernik, who is a well known Kdf-Expert told me that he owned that car for a long time since the 1960s before he traded it with the owner of the Gmünd collection.

[Bruce]

I remember reading somewhere that there is a difference in the front diff housing between the Type 87/92 and the "common" Type 166 Schwimmwagen. But I can't remember exactly what that difference was.
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[Kapt. Q]

[Blauchen L331]

Looks like a 1948 or 49 standard body on 4wd components, many heavily damaged cars from the war were rebodied by firms like Denzel, MAHAG or Glockner.
(back in the 1980's I owned a partial rebodied 1943 KDF by Glockner, the front end had been totalled, but they cut the front off a 1946 car and put it on mine)
The drivetrain may be original or made up from WW2 4wd parts, but the body is 100% post 1945 you can tell by the dash board and the body pressing of the rear split window.

Still looks pretty kool, I wouldn't say no if someone offered it to me

Tom
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