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thefladge Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1294 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: Shorter Manifolds for Weber 40 IDF Carb? |
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Hey everyone.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of some short manifolds for Webers that will clear a Doghouse shroud. Why? The rear bumper cage for my Baja passes VERY close over the tops of my air cleaners. It makes it difficult to sync the carbs with the bumper installed.
I've seen really short ones for Type 3 engines, but I don't know if they would work on my Type 1 engine.
_________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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Teeroy  Samba Member

Joined: April 20, 2003 Posts: 3833 Location: Eastern WA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: Shorter Manifolds for Weber 40 IDF Carb? |
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The type 3 intakes should be fine, you will need longer down links for your linkage though _________________ Pres. Rivercity VW Club www.rcvwclub.org
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Type 5 Joe Banned
Joined: January 18, 2003 Posts: 1795 Location: Oregon
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thefladge Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1294 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yikes! Berg prices! _________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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Viande Samba Member

Joined: August 14, 2008 Posts: 1719 Location: GA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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See there ya go again recommending a quality part. These guys want their parts made by a 3 dollar a day Chinese worker. They want cheap at any cost. _________________ Bobby
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The bitter taste of poor quality lingers long after the joy of the cheap price fades away. |
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thefladge Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1294 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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As you can see, I do have numerous Gene Berg parts on my engine. $150 seems a bit steep for a pair manifolds in my opinion. _________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
Joined: January 18, 2003 Posts: 1795 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have a used pair of the GB 580's ported to 45mm good condition for $110.00 shipped.
- Joe |
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thefladge Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1294 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Type 5 Joe wrote: |
I have a used pair of the GB 580's ported to 45mm good condition for $110.00 shipped.
- Joe |
I've got 40 IDFs. _________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
Joined: January 18, 2003 Posts: 1795 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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There are alot of folks running 48mm manifolds with 36's and 40's.
That is what you get with almost anybody else selling manifolds... Including the Type III style.
Some have said it actually helps with the effects of reversion in the intake system. |
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DarthWeber Samba Member

Joined: November 24, 2007 Posts: 7543 Location: Whittier,CA
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Viande wrote: |
See there ya go again recommending a quality part. These guys want their parts made by a 3 dollar a day Chinese worker. They want cheap at any cost. |
X2!  |
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Scott Novak Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2004 Posts: 1586 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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With Berg IDF intake manifolds there is very little clearance between the fuel enrichment block off plate and the fan shroud. You may or may not need to manipulate the fan shroud with a hammer to fit. You may also need to offset the air cleaners to clear the fan shroud. The fit will vary depending on the angle of the intake manifold seating surface on the heads.
Berg IDF intake manifold do have actual 40 mm diameter inlets to mate with the carbs.
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1procrastinator Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2007 Posts: 178
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Shorter manifolds for weber 40 IDF carbs? |
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Might be easier to modify the rear bumper cage for more clearance. |
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Type 5 Joe Banned
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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- And the ability to run a thermostat..... |
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pdub Samba Member

Joined: July 07, 2006 Posts: 697 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have the exact same problem on my baja. I'm going to buy 2 3/4" filter elements next time instead of the 3 1/4" like we both currently have. |
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Scott Novak Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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The Berg intake manifolds sit somewhere between 1" and 1.5" lower than most other intake manifolds. You can fit a 3-1/4" tall x 4-1/2" wide x 7" long K&N air filter inside a Beetle Sedan engine compartment and still close the lid.
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Ken Taber Samba Member
Joined: October 17, 2006 Posts: 123
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: type 3 manifolds on type 1 |
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You will be plesently supprised how good the type 3 manifolds work one a type 1 with doghouse. I use CB's . I am in the process of casting one like the type 3 but it will flow much better and you will be able to make the ports as big as you want. |
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Ken Taber Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:23 am Post subject: type 3 manifolds on type 1 |
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You will be plesently supprised how good the type 3 manifolds work one a type 1 with doghouse. I use CB's . I am in the process of casting one like the type 3 but it will flow much better and you will be able to make the ports as big as you want. |
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madmike Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 5300 Location: Atlanta,Michigan
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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like 1pro said , some quick release pins and you out maybe 20 bucks?? _________________ 'Black Ice'Drag Buggy 'Turbo'
Rail Buggy 1915 turbo
76 Drag/Street bug 2180cc 'Turbo' 11:85 @113 mph"If I go any faster I'll burn up the Hamster" ,gets 28 mpg. also 10/09/22 11.90 @115 mph
"If I'm ever on Life Support,UNPLUG Me, Then Plug me back In see if that Works" |
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thefladge Samba Member

Joined: July 25, 2005 Posts: 1294 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 manifolds on type 1 |
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Ken Taber wrote: |
You will be plesently supprised how good the type 3 manifolds work one a type 1 with doghouse. I use CB's . I am in the process of casting one like the type 3 but it will flow much better and you will be able to make the ports as big as you want. |
Are these the ones?
http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=532
3170 Manifold - Dual 36, 40, 44, & 45mm DRLA & IDF - Dual Port T-3
$69.95
_________________ 1957 Vintage Baja Bug.
2110cc engine, 40 IDF Webers on Gene Berg manifolds, Engle 110 cam, Bugpack 40×35.5 Street Pro Heads, W8CC plugs, 12.5 pound Flywheel, Kennedy 1700 pound pressure plate. |
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