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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Gray cabinet building tips Reply with quote

I'd like to build a closet something like this one behind the driver's seat in this picture for our '02 EVWK.

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Does anyone have any good tips? Steve at eurocampers.com advised that the camper books say to build it in place which seems like a good idea.

So far I've seen this gray / grey laminate and T-molding from GoWesty.

The laminate is pretty $pendy which is unappealing. Anybody know a source for a cheaper T-molding?

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I found this latch via this EVC'ers site showing his modifications: http://homepage.mac.com/msiminoff/PhotoAlbum38.html

Southco M1-82 (anybody know a source?)

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I came across this iron-on melamine. Anybody have an idea about toughness/durability? The price is certainly better than GoWesty's laminate.

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Thanks in advance for any ideas.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a thread recently about the color # for the Westy laminate. Someone had posted the exact matching color and gotten it from a countertop place. Search for "laminate" and see what comes up.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

izzydog wrote:
There was a thread recently about the color # for the Westy laminate. Someone had posted the exact matching color and gotten it from a countertop place. Search for "laminate" and see what comes up.


Thanks for the tip, but I'm not finding it... anybody have it bookmarked or something?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pionite F39 SG204 N Mercury

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3...;start=120

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3859027&highlight=#3859027
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

otiswesty wrote:
Pionite F39 SG204 N Mercury

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3...;start=120

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3859027&highlight=#3859027


Thanks! Called around and you can get that Pionite brand in 3', 4', 5' widths and 8', 10', 12' lengths.

The dark grey stuff from Reimo looks like what I was wanting... I'll have to see if a colleague from Germany could get some for me, or maybe try Steve at eurocampers.com

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Some of the handles look interesting too:

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what prices you have for t molding, but www.t-molding.com has quite a selection. They come from video game land, but its still t-molding

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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otiswesty wrote:
Some of the handles look interesting too:

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Awesome! That handle looks like a direct replacement for the handles we have.

I am down a couple and haven't found a replacement source for them yet.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you give us a link to your handle source?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

markz2004 wrote:
Can you give us a link to your handle source?

thanks,
Mark


I pulled the pic from the reimo site:

http://www.reimo.com/en/D-accessories/DW-conversion_parts_bits/DWK-furniture_building_and_mounting/
-- page 3

I don't know of an official importer, but Steve at eurocampers will order anything from the catalog, but it could take awhile.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Westfalia laminates Reply with quote

See my earlier post set out below regarding the greyish laminate used in the '87 to '91 Westfalias. I don't know what was used in the Eurovans, but I found this to be an exact match and it cost me only $79.00 CAD at a local plywood and laminate specialty store for a 4 x 8 foot sheet.

Good luck with your project!!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Westfalia laminates Reply with quote

Howesight wrote:

Good luck with your project!!


Thanks!

I'm not bent on any exact match since I don't have any cabinetry in the EVWK (other than the bottom of the bed).

I need to find myself a sample of Formica 927-58 "Folkstone"
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone bought some of this edge trim? Is it flexible enough?

http://www.reimo.com/r31/vc_reimo/bilder/firma16/artikel/popup/5210519_popup.jpg

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might suggest going to a cabinet shop and looking at the sample display board that the PLam companies give them.

Hundreds and hundreds of samples to choose from and you can get a small pre-cut sample piece from the cabinet shop to compare to the color on the cabinets.

"T" molding is also another item the cabinet shop would have since the "T" molding can be used on the front of a shelf or the front edge of a cabinet or even the edge of a Westy Table.

Lumber yards for the do-it-yer-selfers would also have a decent selection as well.

Remember that to ship a sheet of PLam (plastic laminate) , it has to be rolled up for shipping.
While being shipped the PLam can split or crack and its a bitch to try and cut around the break or to try and repair the break.

Shipping can be expensive too.

Bypass any huge markup by GW and find some locally.

Some of the water based cements work quite well but the solvent based cements are a little better.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use a water based adhesive be sure it is fresh. If you use a solvent based one wear a respirator with the proper cartridge (NOT a dust mask!) Do not smoke, strike a match, set off a spark... I had a friend get some nasty burns on his face from a flash fire from laminate solvent.

Get a library book on kitchen cabinet building or laminating, Tauton Press (Fine Homebuilding/Fine Woodworking) has a number of excellent books, follow directions, use a j roller to set it, it's easier than dropping your fuel tank!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a drawer front down to my local lumber yard and found an almost exact match. I think I paid about $40 for enough to cover the entire upper rear cabinet with enough extra for a couple of other projects. The GW stuff isn't some magic westy item...just regular laminate in a color match. As for the Reimo trim...I want to order some too...If anyone else wants to go in on an order to save shipping costs I'm in!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind that when installing the "T" molding it will be difficult to attach around the tight radius of the doors.

You will have to trim off the verticle part of the "T" to get it to follow the outside profile of the door....that will take some experimenting, so order up an extra legnth .

Also it will be a benefit to heat up the "T" molding with a heat gun or a hair drier to assist in installing it to the radius.
When routing the groove for the "T" molding, use a slotting bit.
Get one thats a bit shy of the thickness of the molding but DONT get one that cuts to thin otherwise when you tap the molding into the groove, the piece (the door...or table top) your attaching it to will split......thats not good.

If I was to do a job like this.....I would make a sacrificial door from scrap MDF or Plywood. Route the slot in the edge....cut,trim and heat up the "T" molding to fit the radius .....dry fit it.
Put a band clamp on it and let it set a day or so.

When you proceed with the "real deal" apply some glue into the radius slot to help secure the "T" molding.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Gray cabinet building tips Reply with quote

1/6/2019- found a formica supplier -

https://www.cabinetmakerwarehouse.com/catalog/folkstone-formica-laminate-4-x-8-sheets-mat-p14210/

Laughing

I just bought a sheet- will update of there is an issue.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Gray cabinet building tips Reply with quote

Wow.. old thread.

Any of the big box stores like The Home Depot or Lowe’s Home Improvement will be able to source Formica or Wilsonart in any color or pattern. It is easy to work with and would probably work well as a cabinet laminate for custom built cabinets.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Gray cabinet building tips Reply with quote

For the gray westfalia, the Formica color is "Folkstone" in matte finish.
Formica product Number 927-58.

I bought a 30"X96" sheet at HomeDepot for $40. 30x96 can yield up to 9 pcs for the Truckfridge TF49.
15x20 is about 1/2"x1/2" bigger than the TF49.
I don't know the TF65 size.

If anyone in the Seattle area needs a Truckfridge sheet -- send a PM.
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