Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
34 PICT 3 turbocharging !
Page: 1, 2, 3  Next
Forum Index -> Performance/Engines/Transmissions Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: 34 PICT 3 turbocharging ! Reply with quote

Hello has all!

a link to modify your carburettor 34 pict 3 for turbocharging ( or not !)

You can also use on 1600 cc has 2100 cc Without turbo..

Over my 1600 turbo, we obtained 138 cv and 22 m/kg ..

Enjoy !!

http://www.flat4ever.com/34-pict-3-mod-t46887.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
buggs69
Samba Member


Joined: May 04, 2005
Posts: 136
Location: tulsa, oklahoma
buggs69 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to bad its not in english
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
[/url][/b]

Remove the buzzard 34 of origin and replace by a tube diffuser
slow running jet 50
air jet 110
main jet 185
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
[/url]

[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
[/url]

Construction of the tube diameter 14..
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


[/url]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
MaxPain
Samba Member


Joined: September 07, 2007
Posts: 27
Location: France
MaxPain is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job,

could you tell us more, do you have the full result of the dyno?
Maybe a picture of the car?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Evelyn Tremble
Samba Member


Joined: March 01, 2006
Posts: 9

Evelyn Tremble is offline 

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We actually do have some resusts...

1600cc ran that day @ about 138hp with a torque of about 225NM.
Sonce then, the carburetor evolved in both size, jets and design. As well as the manifold.
We expect that engine to be around 150hp now.

Just a lil' reminder, the engine is a stock VW engien with only a Engle100 camshaft.
I mean no crank, no pistons, no head work, no nothing. Just a camshaft.
If that engine was set up with a counterweight crank, light rods, a better camshaft such as a TCS10, forged pistons, head work (such as valve job, ports...) it'd probably develop more hp than what we got.
The difference between such engine in a N/A design compared to a stock 1600 is know of almost everybody. Imagine what it could do once turboed.

Carb is a stock 34pict Solex modified to tun without the stock venturi. carb runs as if venturied in 34mm. Carb has been sized up to 36mm.
To cancel the natural lag of this carb once the venturi has been removed, the carb is fitted with an auxiliary venturi (as in the DRLAs and other webers). The carb is smooth and progressive all around in a N/A config. This allows the car to run without any turbo lag at all once turboed.
Engine gives @ 2500 the same power and torque as the original stock N/A 1600 @ its best. Then both torque and power increase up to 225NM and 138hp @ 4500rpm.
Trials have not been made over 5k rpm sine the crank and sth sliding parts are stock. No doubt that the same engine with a tune up as mentionned above would run over 5500rpm.

We have a 2110cc engine running with the same carb and a T3 turbo. But it does not have been dynoed yet.
On the other hand, if you'd ever come to open that car's deck lid, you'd be surprise to find well...nothing. The turboed 2110cc looks like a stock 1600cc VW engine in a stock car. Everything has been camouflaged in the stock pipes, tinware and filter.

A complete recap will be done in English there: http://german-flat-wsl-fun.skynetblogs.be/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Evelyn Tremble
Samba Member


Joined: March 01, 2006
Posts: 9

Evelyn Tremble is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and I did not mention what the air/fuel ratio sensor gives.
Better than a fuel injection...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1600 turbo inside....

[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
[/url]
[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
[/url]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[url]
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.
[/url]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
connella08
Samba Member


Joined: February 28, 2009
Posts: 833
Location: south central mass
connella08 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Shocked Shocked beautiful car!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
Bruce Amacker
Samba Member


Joined: December 26, 2007
Posts: 1790
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Bruce Amacker is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buggs69 wrote:
to bad its not in english


The Google toolbar will translate any page into English for you, it's a free download and well worth having. It also includes a spellchecker for web pages you're typing in (like Samba) and puts Google searching at your fingertips.

http://www.google.com/toolbar/ie/index.html


Good Luck!
_________________
'66 Deluxe Bus
'65 Standard Bus
Build threads:
'66- http://www.leakoil.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2888&sid=54d8dedfb3822f99c7f2ea430cb4e856
'65- http://leakoil.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4263
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
buggs69
Samba Member


Joined: May 04, 2005
Posts: 136
Location: tulsa, oklahoma
buggs69 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks bruce, i downloaded that
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
speedster2
Samba Member


Joined: December 25, 2009
Posts: 8
Location: french east cost
speedster2 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/v/EBb1aTDfT6Q
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
miniman82
Samba Swamp Donkey


Joined: March 22, 2005
Posts: 9515
Location: Southern Maryland
miniman82 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evelyn Tremble wrote:
Better than a fuel injection...


BS. A well, and I mean WELL tuned carb may get close, but nothing is more accurate, repeatable and tunable than fuel injection.
_________________
Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747

Glenn wrote:
satterley_sr wrote:

I just wanted to bitch but I'm getting no sympathy.


Welcome to the Samba.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
speedyshift74
Samba Member


Joined: January 12, 2005
Posts: 449

speedyshift74 is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds good in the video. But I find it very hard to Beleive that you are running a bone stock Crank and STOCK Valve Springs with the RPMs on the Tach .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
bugninva
Samba Member


Joined: December 14, 2004
Posts: 8858
Location: sound it out.
bugninva is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

speedyshift74 wrote:
But I find it very hard to Beleive that you are running a bone stock Crank and STOCK Valve Springs with the RPMs on the Tach .


5200 rpm makes you think that? geeze I used to routinely run my stock cranked turbo mouse motor up to 7k, that'd probably make you crap the ole undies...... I have it limited at 5800 now...
_________________
[email protected] wrote:
With a show of hands, who has built over 1000 engines in the last 25 years? Anyone?


GEX has. Just sayin
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
MaxPain
Samba Member


Joined: September 07, 2007
Posts: 27
Location: France
MaxPain is offline 

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

miniman82 wrote:
Evelyn Tremble wrote:
Better than a fuel injection...


BS. A well, and I mean WELL tuned carb may get close, but nothing is more accurate, repeatable and tunable than fuel injection.


This one is!
The dyno sheet will be put online, the lambda curve is so stable, and from 3800 to 5000 rpm it's so acurate that only the third digit after the point changes a little. the lambda is stable at 0.7487 with very minor variation.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
miniman82
Samba Swamp Donkey


Joined: March 22, 2005
Posts: 9515
Location: Southern Maryland
miniman82 is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full throttle is the easy part, it's everywhere else that they fall on their face.
_________________
Build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=212747

Glenn wrote:
satterley_sr wrote:

I just wanted to bitch but I'm getting no sympathy.


Welcome to the Samba.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
buguy
Samba Member


Joined: November 17, 2003
Posts: 4915
Location: Port Orange, FL
buguy is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much boost are you pushing in the dyno runs?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Performance/Engines/Transmissions All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page: 1, 2, 3  Next
Page 1 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2024, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.