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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Return of the 14" BFG TA KO | LT195/75R14/D Reply with quote

BFGoodrich USA is listing a new size for the All-Terrain TA KO

Tire Size - LT195/75R14/D | Service Description - 99R | Revs/Mile at 45 mph - 815 | Max Load (lbs@psi) 1710@65

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs/all-terrain-t-a-ko/44.html

Tire rack lists them too.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=BFGoo...R4ARAKORWL

Even better than the old 27x8.50R14!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bad! An inch+ shorter in height though, but better load capability.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BFG has revamped most of the offroad tires and have good sizes in 14, 15 and 16 for use with Vanagons.

I will check with my local tire distributor, Towne Fair Tire and get a price.
They have beaten Tire Rack on every tire I've looked at and purchased.
Free M&B, rotation and road hazard too.

$139 mounted and balnced.
They must be ordered as they are new.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must have been the 500 or so emails I sent them........seriously! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that I have not been here for quite a while now but this is perfect.
This is really nice for me... I've been searching for about a week now looking for tires like these:
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and have come up with nothing, although I have not been feverishly searching either. Reason is I can't get them for another two weeks, but new shoes for my 87' Wolfsburg have been on the list since I bought the Van. Now I need them; I don't just "want them".
I have been to six different tire shops here locally, and all, without fail, have shaken their heads the moment that I mention that my rims are 14". I have the alloys.

I did not want to loose the stock wheels, but I did want tires like those... and that means 15"/16" rims and added cost.

Who has the best deal on the West Coast?

Ps: Thanks PDXWesty, for the pictures... and to you PW for the 500 emails. It was dissapointing to find this in my search:
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I confirmed the sad news today.

Email response from BFG:

Thank you for your email. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you.

We apologize that the 27X8.50R14 All Terrain T/A KO has been discontinued
and is no longer available. We no longer produce a tire in this size.

Thank you for considering BFGoodrich tires.

If your questions have not been answered to your satisfaction, please call
me at 1-877-788-8899 (toll-free) between 8:00AM and 5:00PM Eastern Time
Monday through Friday.


Found here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249543&highlight=bfg+++inch+alloys sad news.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if this has been asked before but how much more road noise do these make compared to a street tire and compared to the Hakkapalita?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could have warned us about the frontal pic! Scary.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

singler3360 wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before but how much more road noise do these make compared to a street tire and compared to the Hakkapalita?


Road noise? You know we are talking about Vanagons right? LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busryder, are those tires the one that are posted on the link? The 14" all terrain bfg? Those look really nice. I clicked the link, but I didn't see a price. How much?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You could have warned us about the frontal pic! Scary.


ouch!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the circumference is pretty close.....

185R14 = 80.58" vs 185/75/14 = 80.14"
~811 revs per mile vs 815 revs per mile

Overall diameter =

25.65" vs 25.51"
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:
syncrodoka wrote:
You could have warned us about the frontal pic! Scary.


ouch!

Yea.. I know, sorry about that. But I was in a hurry and on the way out the door.
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Busryder, are those tires the one that are posted on the link? The 14" all terrain bfg? Those look really nice. I clicked the link, but I didn't see a price. How much?

No. These are not the tires in the first link posted in this thread, instead the pic's that I posted are of the original BFG's that were discontinued in late 08' (I think). If you look at the bottom of my first post you will find the thread that I found the tires pictured here in. I hope that these new ones are similar in appearance to the old 27x8.50R14, as they are c@nt hair close in stats.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old TA KOs were 27x8.50R14 which is very close to 215/75R14. The new ones are 195/75R14 so a bit smaller (26.92 vs 25.51 inch diameter, 772.6 vs 815.3 revs per mile) but otherwise will look exactly the same. BFG's look sweet on Vanagons, a blocky van deserves a blocky tire.

Road noise is not a problem with these tires, good wet performance, pretty good in the snow. IMO the old ones were the best Vanagon tire available at the time. The new size and load rating is better still, and they should produce close to accurate speedo readings. Good news for Vanagon owners, especially us Aircooled guys (the bigger tires bump up the CHT on the highway).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they should produce close to accurate speedo readings.

Stock size tires give a high reading on the speedo. My 215/75/15 tires give a dead on guage reading that has been GPS verified.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, my 1980 reads slow relative to GPS on the 27x8.50R14 BFG's at highway speed. My other van, also a 1980, reads fast on 185/75R14. I figured the 195/75 would be pretty close to ideal, but maybe it depends on the van.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LT215/75R15/C

That should work well on a Eurovan Camper also shouldn't it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't you get the tires off the smashed Westy?
That thing aint driving anywhere anytime soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, where's the love? Shocked

That crash victim is a few years old and has gone to VW heaven. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=175672
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

singler3360 wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before but how much more road noise do these make compared to a street tire and compared to the Hakkapalita?


I've had the 27x8.5 14's for about 15,000 miles now. They were surprisingly quiet when installed. They've gotten a bit noisier with age, but NOTHING compared to the Bridgestone Dueler A/T's I had before. Those things sounded like tractor tires.

The BFG's are great in dirt and rain I have had good luck with them in snow, although some say they don't do a good job of clearing their treads.

And, most importantly, they look really, really cool with the Vanagon alloys. I get lots of compliments on them from all sorts of people, rednecks and hippies alike.

I keep thinking I'm going to move up to the 16" CLK wheels and more conventional tires, but I can't see spending the dollars when this setup has worked well for this long.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know if the BF Goodrich's will be available in the UK (or an alternative) in 14s?

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