1,9l TDI pumpe dusse vanagon conversion.

jabba

Hello vanagon fanatics Laughing

I'm searching for members who have done this conversion or kit from company to do the conversion.
Especially for the oil pan.
I've ever found solutions from hasenwerks, but they are no longer in activity and can't find the pics of their custom oil pan. Have you got it?
And from eurospecsport, but the kit they sale isn't for a 50 degree engine installation.
Please send me or post here pics of your tdi conversion.
Thanks for your help.
Stéphane.

ThorAlex · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:12 am Post subject:

What you need is a diesel donor van, in france that should be easy to find. the parts you need are: bellhousing, stub axle, oil pan and engine mountings.

That said the pump deuse system is supposed to be a bad choice (I can't remeber why), a regular TDi , is a better choice. Og to avoid the hassle of the electronics a 1.9TD (AAZ) is a good and easy conversion.
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jabba · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:24 am Post subject:

Thx for your answer thoralex,
I know (approximatly) what i need for my conversion. Bt what i'm lookink for is pictures of such conversion for my reflexion.
A friend of mine have done this conversion with a 160hp tdi from a Seat Ibiza Cupra. And it's really..... WHAouuuuuuh! Very Happy

He had cut the oil pan like this:
http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=090408112407623933450011.jpg

Hasenwerk have made a complete custom oil pan. I'm searching for other way to do the job.
In my mind, i would cut the tdi oil pan in 2 (in the longer side) and replace the vanagon specific oil pan on it with a strech band of metal.

MarkWard · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:08 am Post subject:

Jabba, do a search in the Samba Gallery under my user name. I have an ALH similar to the pump duse mounted at 50 degrees. We fabricated our own oil pan by cuting the flange "aluminum" from the stock TDI pan and welding in aluminum panels to replicate the 50 degree stock vanagon diesel pan. I like the look of the Eurospec kit and have been chasing a resonance/vibration they mention at a particular load and rpm. I don't believe Hassenwork has the pan yet unless they are making them one at a time custom. David Marshall had mentioned trying to do a run of pans from cast aluminum. I was interested, but don't believe he got that far.

BlackDogVan · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:55 am Post subject:

I'm pretty sure the fast forward PD was in a Syncro & at 15*.

FWIW I think the ALH is the best TDI VAG made. Easily makes the PD or CR hp, is simpler & can be run as a mechanical tdi.

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jabba · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject:

@RSXSR,
I' ve saw a little piece of your custom oil pan on this pics:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

You've done a good job! Have you got pics during the built of your oil pan?
What kind of Clutch axle, fly wheel and gearbox did you use?

@BLACKDOGVAN,

@V.DUBBER,
Sorry but i can't find informations on Brick-yard. Can you help me in being more precise.
Thanks each of you for your help.
Greets From France.
Stéphane.

BlackDogVan · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:47 pm Post subject:

jabba · Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:50 pm Post subject:

No Blackdogvan it's not a PD engine, it's an ALH. But like rsxr says the 2 engines have the same oil pan.
It was just to show you that David Marshall have made custom oil pan wich can fit on PD engine for a 50° conversion. Wink

wildenbeast · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:50 am Post subject:

These places may also be of some help;
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/TDI-conversion/
http://www.vwdiesel.net/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=9d02d1704bda2f805cdedc6e44615853&
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MarkWard · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:16 am Post subject:

Unfortunately, I did not document any of the work with pictures. This was a one off project started back in 2000. I am always more interested in getting a project done than documenting it. Usually, once I have completed a particular task, it seems I would do it differently the next time anyhow. Because of the extra work associated with using an ALH or PD layed over at 50 degrees, I don't know of many that are doing type of conversion in a vanagon.
For the transmission, originally I used a stock air cooled vanagon engine with diesel input shaft and bellhousing. After my second long distance trip, I decided to improve the transmission gearing. Daryl at AA Transaxle built me a new transmission from scratch with a 4.14 ring and pinion along with the updated 3-4 slider, his splash plates and a .77 th gear. I am using the stock diesel flywheel along with the stock vanagon diesel clutch. No signs of slipage yet, but I do shift very carefully. I learned from road racing not to stess the clutch. If I have a failure of the clutch, I will consider upgrading.

BlackDogVan · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:43 am Post subject:

OIC, yes I forgot they have the same block.

FWIW, for all the hassle i'd stick to a 1Z/AHU engine for a 50* install. Having a huge parts bin of stock install parts ready to go is really worth it now & down the road. The stock engine is good for the HP you're talking about with injectors and a turbo upgrade (you can reflash the ECU to run a VNT turbo). Thats already on the edge of what a VR6 clutch can hold & past that it gets pretty expencive.

I think the biggest upgrade in the ALH is better pistons (which can be used on a 1Z) & maybe slightly stronger rods. Not that the 1Z is known for throwing rods.

All that said I'm all for seeing a fire breathing PD in a Van, DO IT!!

syncroserge · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:48 am Post subject:

Stéphane, I sent you a message on T3Zone also. I have pictures that
can be of interest to all so I'll post them later today.

jabba · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:50 am Post subject:

Nip Tuck

Here is my custom oil pan:

SyncroGhia · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:44 am Post subject:

A friend of mine has carried out his own TDi PD engine conversion in UK.
Here are a few pics...

He has made his own adaptor plate and mountings and runs the full dash etc in the van.

A quick quote from Doug
"The engine is attached to the gearbox using a custom made adapter plate, sorry no drawings or photos - you cannot see much of the plate when it's installed
The plate was made made so that the engine is vertical, the Europspec modified bellhousing would appear to cant the engine over, similar to the 1.6TD JX arrangement.
I completely rewired my van so that all the 'toys' from the Golf/Passat work including immobiliser, cruise control, adjustable wipers etc."

From memory, it's running about 160bhp but hasn't been dyno'd and he is currently working through clutch designs to be able to handle the power without slipping.

I'll see if I can get anymore info on it.

MG
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?Waldo? · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:33 am Post subject:

jabba · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:28 am Post subject:

SyncroGhia · Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:40 am Post subject:

Ok I'll see if I can entice him onto the board Smile

From memory, Doug uses an adaptor for the electronic speedo which fits directly onto the front diff.

Inicidentaly, an Audi MC engine uses a 240mm clutch with the same splines as stock...

MG
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jabba · Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:55 am Post subject:

Many job to do again. Confused

jabba · Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:27 pm Post subject:


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