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tardis454
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Joined: March 27, 2010
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Location: In a van, down by the river
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 Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: New to TheSamba... Here's our Buggy |
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Just joined today, hello fellow Samba members...
My wife & I got a Citation II dune buggy from her dad today.
She spent many summers riding in it as a kid, & now it's hers lol!
He built it in 1973, & it still has all of the original parts from that era.
It has a 1600 w/Holley Bug Spray kit, & what he calls a race cam.
From what I understand the Citation II kit is somewhat rare.
We haven't seen another one like it in Ohio.
I took some pics of it today, here they are...
The buggy ran last year, but wouldn't start today.
The starter went bad, & the fuel pump needs rebuilt.
Other than that it's a unique little head turner.
I am a Chevy & Jeep guy at heart, & honestly, I have never liked VW's.
I hope my experience with this buggy changes all that, we shall see... |
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egsteph
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Location: Capitol of Illinois
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sweet score, looks awsome!! welcome!! Most of us can only wish ours came in that good of condition..
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tardis454
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Joined: March 27, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: In a van, down by the river
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| egsteph wrote: |
| sweet score, looks awsome!! welcome!! Most of us can only wish ours came in that good of condition.. |
Thanks man 
Her dad took really good care of it, always storing it in that shed.
He always put WD-40 on the sheetmetal parts before he stored it.
It even has the original side curtain windows that came with the kit! |
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2001gs
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Joined: August 18, 2008
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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nice ride welcome
you said that you "have the original side curtians" do you have any pix of it? I have the same top on mine and been looking to put side curtians |
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tardis454
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Joined: March 27, 2010
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Location: In a van, down by the river
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| 2001gs wrote: |
nice ride welcome
you said that you "have the original side curtians" do you have any pix of it? I have the same top on mine and been looking to put side curtians |
The side curtains are still buried somewhere in her dad's garage.
We're gonna clean them up & take some pics when he finds them. |
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crack monkey
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Joined: March 12, 2004
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berrin buggy had been making citation bodies for a while but from what i understand, the original molds are now too far gone to produce any more.
very nice ride man |
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tardis454
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Location: In a van, down by the river
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| crack monkey wrote: |
berrin buggy had been making citation bodies for a while but from what i understand, the original molds are now too far gone to produce any more.
very nice ride man |
Thanks man...
Yea, I've seen other Berrin kits online, but only 1 or 2 like this one. |
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Lo Cash John
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Joined: February 06, 2004
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Location: Jacksonville, FL
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE!
EXTERMINATE!
Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion...
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DBDNY
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Joined: March 06, 2010
Posts: 122
Location: Northern NY
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Very nice, good luck and have fun |
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new-n-old-vdubs
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Joined: June 10, 2009
Posts: 587
Location: feeding hills mass
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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thats belt guard is sweet, but so isnt the whole buggy ! 
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73SpeedBuggy
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Joined: July 11, 2006
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Location: Warminster, PA
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Nice ride! I have (what I believe is) a Citation I. Looks almost exactly the same from the sides and rear but the hood is completely different...
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2088705
BTW, where are yo in Ohio? I'm not far from Youngstown. |
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manxdavid
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Joined: November 24, 2003
Posts: 1841
Location: David Jones, Anglesey, North Wales, UK. Manxclub #678.
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I didn't know that Daleks had made it over the Atlantic, I though they had enough problems with stairs let alone Jumbo Jets...  |
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tardis454
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Joined: March 27, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: In a van, down by the river
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| 73SpeedBuggy wrote: |
Nice ride! I have (what I believe is) a Citation I. Looks almost exactly the same from the sides and rear but the hood is completely different...
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2088705
BTW, where are yo in Ohio? I'm not far from Youngstown. |
Wow, small world man! Nice buggy
We are in Madison Ohio, about 1 1/2 hrs north of Youngstown.
My friend came over today, & we got the buggy running.
Turns out the fuel pump was leaking, so we sealed it with Permatex.
It took a little bit of prodding, but once it got fuel it fired right up.
We did some timing & carb adjustments & got it to run & idle nice.
Here are videos of it running...
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk319/yerfawked/Buggy/?action=view¤t=front.flv
http://s283.photobucket.com/albums/kk319/yerfawked/Buggy/?action=view¤t=rear.flv
So far everything is going good with this buggy.
There are a few hard to get at parts, but mechanically it's easy to fix.
I'll be rebuilding the fuel pump, tuning it up, changing oil, etc soon.
The case is leaking, so I'll likely have to pull motor & use some seal string to fix it.
This buggy is starting to grow on me, & I'm a diehard Chevy/Jeep guy!!! |
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Dinubadave
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Joined: February 18, 2009
Posts: 490
Location: Dinuba, CA
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Welcome to the forum and keep the pictures/videos coming. Nice looking buggy, gotta love the green! |
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tardis454
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Joined: March 27, 2010
Posts: 125
Location: In a van, down by the river
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Leaking Pushrod Tubes... |
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I thought the case was leaking but found out it was the oil strainer gasket & the pushrod tubes as usual...
I know this question has been asked a million times, & yes I used the search feature...
I want to know who makes "The Best" adjustable pushrod tubes.
I don't want to disturb this motor to much, it runs fine & I just want it to stop leaking oil.
I have an extra motor to rebuild for it in the meantime...
**I didn't see an actual 'tech write-up' about leaky pushrod tubes.**
**It'd be nice to have a 'stickied' write-up for such a common problem.**
**I'd take pics, & write about it if necessary if I knew what to buy first.** |
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Russ Wolfe
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Leaking Pushrod Tubes... |
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I thought the case was leaking but found out it was the oil strainer gasket & the pushrod tubes as usual...
I know this question has been asked a million times, & yes I used the search feature...
I want to know who makes "The Best" adjustable pushrod tubes.
I don't want to disturb this motor to much, it runs fine & I just want it to stop leaking oil.
I have an extra motor to rebuild for it in the meantime...
**I didn't see an actual 'tech write-up' about leaky pushrod tubes.**
**It'd be nice to have a 'stickied' write-up for such a common problem.**
**I'd take pics, & write about it if necessary if I knew what to buy first.** |
Nobody make "good" expandable push rod tubes. There is no such thing.
Just use stock tubes. They have worked for years. And, they actually help cool the oil returning to the case from the heads.
When you put stock tubes in, make sure the welded seams to the top. If they do leak, that is where it will be.
Stock push rod tubes do not leak, it is the seal at the ends that leak. And you will be using the same seals with the the expandable ones.
In fact, when I have not had new tubes to use, and I have needed some in a hurry, I have reused stock tubes. I just stretch them out a little and clean them up.
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joescoolcustoms
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The one, (and only part I have found so far) EMPI part I will reccomend is the race aluminum two piece push rod tubes. They are higher doller, but very nice. I use them on race engines so I can torque the head first then install the tubes to be certian I get a good head torque.
They use the factory end seals, but the slip section uses a double O-ring seal. They are high quality and do not leak for me. They are really widened at the head end for use with ratio rockers, high lift cams and so forth. I paid $ 45 for my last set.
The plastic ones I would only reccomend for a temp road repair.
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tardis454
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Russ Wolfe wrote: |
Nobody make "good" expandable push rod tubes. There is no such thing.
Just use stock tubes. They have worked for years. And, they actually help cool the oil returning to the case from the heads.
When you put stock tubes in, make sure the welded seams to the top. If they do leak, that is where it will be.
Stock push rod tubes do not leak, it is the seal at the ends that leak. And you will be using the same seals with the the expandable ones.
In fact, when I have not had new tubes to use, and I have needed some in a hurry, I have reused stock tubes. I just stretch them out a little and clean them up. |
That seems to be what every forum says about the stock Vs adjustable tubes.
I really don't want to disturb the heads on this motor at this point if I don't have to.
I'm afraid it'll open up a can of worms & I'll end up having to do more then just tubes. 
With my luck the heads will be warped, or something else bad will happen.
Wifey wants to enjoy it this summer, & I'll tear it down this fall if I have to.
| joescoolcustoms wrote: |
The one, (and only part I have found so far) EMPI part I will reccomend is the race aluminum two piece push rod tubes. They are higher doller, but very nice. I use them on race engines so I can torque the head first then install the tubes to be certian I get a good head torque.
They use the factory end seals, but the slip section uses a double O-ring seal. They are high quality and do not leak for me. They are really widened at the head end for use with ratio rockers, high lift cams and so forth. I paid $ 45 for my last set.
The plastic ones I would only reccomend for a temp road repair. |
What's the difference between the BIG tube & stock tube adjustables? |
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joescoolcustoms
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| Russ Wolfe wrote: |
Nobody make "good" expandable push rod tubes. There is no such thing.
Just use stock tubes. They have worked for years. And, they actually help cool the oil returning to the case from the heads.
When you put stock tubes in, make sure the welded seams to the top. If they do leak, that is where it will be.
Stock push rod tubes do not leak, it is the seal at the ends that leak. And you will be using the same seals with the the expandable ones.
In fact, when I have not had new tubes to use, and I have needed some in a hurry, I have reused stock tubes. I just stretch them out a little and clean them up. |
That seems to be what every forum says about the stock Vs adjustable tubes.
I really don't want to disturb the heads on this motor at this point if I don't have to.
I'm afraid it'll open up a can of worms & I'll end up having to do more then just tubes.
With my luck the heads will be warped, or something else bad will happen.
Wifey wants to enjoy it this summer, & I'll tear it down this fall if I have to.
| joescoolcustoms wrote: |
The one, (and only part I have found so far) EMPI part I will reccomend is the race aluminum two piece push rod tubes. They are higher doller, but very nice. I use them on race engines so I can torque the head first then install the tubes to be certian I get a good head torque.
They use the factory end seals, but the slip section uses a double O-ring seal. They are high quality and do not leak for me. They are really widened at the head end for use with ratio rockers, high lift cams and so forth. I paid $ 45 for my last set.
The plastic ones I would only reccomend for a temp road repair. |
What's the difference between the BIG tube & stock tube adjustables? |
The difference between the BIG Tube and stock is they allow for relocation of the pushrods, (for High Performance) but work fine for stock applications. In fact, I just put my last set on a stock 1600 without taking the heads off.
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Russ Wolfe
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:41 am Post subject: |
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I might have a set of expandables out in the shop, I could let go for a good price.
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