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OhChit Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2004 Posts: 271
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: Extending Slider Hinge |
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I know that someone had to done did this all ready, and also saw that someone is selling the extended hindge in the forsale section but it's too pricey. I realize and know that its more involved then just the hindge and I would like to give this job a try and extend my rear Slider door hindge and track. I've got a brain fart and need to lenghten the U hindge 1st.
So who's done, it and who's got the info to help me make the decission if I want to tackel this venture? _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5374 Location: PNW
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:17 am Post subject: |
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Here is the information on doing a late model van.
http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/VehicleSpecific/T3/info/mods/hinge/hinge.htm
Doing an early model is the same as far as the U portion of the hinge, but you do not have to do any cutting on the body. You do, however, have to make a new stop for the slider/trolley so that the door starts to swing inward at the right time.
I have done both early and late and I didn't use the two hing method. I simply added a section in between the original. Yes, that means two welds as opposed to one, but done correctly, this is not a concern. Mine has been on the van for years with not a single problem. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Chris, how early is early?
Is the cut over when the outside handle switched and the latches changed? _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Extending Slider Hindge |
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I think TriStar Eric on this chat site has done it via cut and weld too. If you find one of his recent posts and p-mail him he'll likely tell you more. He often documents with pics too. |
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DubNuts Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2009 Posts: 194
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone got any info or Pics on how to do this job? The Brick yard pics are very hard to see anything. |
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OhChit Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2004 Posts: 271
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to a u-PULL-IT to chase down a donor slider hindge. Are all years of Vanagon rear slider hindge the same? I have a 1987, or what years do I need to watch for? _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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chimivee Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Orange, CA
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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DubNuts wrote: |
The Brick yard pics are very hard to see anything. |
A little bigger...
_________________ -James
86 Syncro Westy, etc |
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OhChit Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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WoW.. Now that's what I needed to see. Thanks much.
But a few questions..
1.. Are the Donnor hinge all the same for Vanagons. Or do I need a late year for my 1987?
2.. The Hinge extention is easily understood, but not sure about the hinge roller track. Does that get shortened by the same amount that I extended the hinge arm? _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6234 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Why is it necessary to shorten the roller track? Can't you just add a stop? _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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OhChit Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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PDXWesty wrote: |
Why is it necessary to shorten the roller track? Can't you just add a stop? |
Ding-gggggg.. Hey good question why didn't I think of that? _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6234 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Now that I look closely at the mechanism, it does look like you need to shorten the track so the inner bearing has some place to go as the hinge pivots closed. _________________ 89 Westy 2.1 Auto |
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Tristar Eric Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2004 Posts: 1241 Location: Portland, Or
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Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, the track follower needs to still do it's thing and make a left turn at the end of the track. |
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OhChit Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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My Vanagon is a 1987 and I'm having troubles locating a donnor slider hinge from a scrap yard. Does anyone know if the slider side of the door hinge is the same on all years? Found several earlier years, just no luck with the later year Vanagons. So if the outer door side of the hinge is the same on all years I was thinking of just using that section to extend my hinge. _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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OhChit Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Come on guys someone must know this U-Hinge answer? _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Extending Slider Hindge |
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<<I know that someone had to done did this all ready, and also saw that someone is selling the extended hindge in the forsale section but it's too pricey>>>
Why is it too pricey?
All the R&D is done, the work is done, and ready to be installed--no internet instruction sheet is going to hand you the hinge finished--hence the cost of a finished product.
I think the price is pretty reasonable. _________________ T.K. |
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OhChit Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Terry Kay Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: Extending Slider Hindge
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Why is it too pricey?
All the R&D is done, the work is done, and ready to be installed--no internet instruction sheet is going to hand you the hinge finished--hence the cost of a finished product.
I think the price is pretty reasonable.
Dude, I simply asked a question about the Hinge, same question that many of us have. Many guys have done this job themselves some for cost reasons, and some just because. Are you claiming to inventing the idea, and design?
Terry. Yes for some of us $200+ bucks plus either sending our current hinge in or an additional $50.00 core charge is down right Pricey.. And that's for a used god condition hinge, not a refurbished one with new rollers etc. If I had the free money and could afford one I would probably buy one from Eric. Last I looked you don't even sell these items, although I have purchassed off of you before, probably not again. Though your prices were a bit Hi, but now it shows who has the bucks and who's trying to do our own things to get the family out. _________________ Fast Cars, and Slow Women Makes me DrooL. |
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PDXWesty Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2006 Posts: 6234 Location: Portland OR
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porker buzz Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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the slider part is different from early to late models on the early models all you have to do is bolt in a new stop by the same amount as you have lengthened the hinge |
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Terry Kay Banned
Joined: June 22, 2003 Posts: 13331
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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<<Are you claiming to inventing the idea, and design?>>
Dude.
Nope, all I said was somebody else has all the work done, and has the job down pat---has it all figured out.
<<Yes for some of us $200+ bucks plus either sending our current hinge in or an additional $50.00 core charge is down right Pricey.. And that's for a used god condition hinge, not a refurbished one with new rollers etc. If I had the free money and could afford one I would probably buy one>>
Again here's an often copped outlet.
You have & own possibly the most expensive to own per mile traveled vehicle on the planet and your crying about the price.
The stuff is all antique, and mostly NLA or custom built, and your worried about the price of the parts ?
Buy a Chevy.
Take a Silver Dog on your next trip.
Not expensive at all.
Put the stock wheels & tires back on the Van and you won't need to spend a dime in getting the sliding door to clear them.
Huh--
Somebody dropped some bucks for the bling--but can't get in & outa the ride---
Imagine that. _________________ T.K. |
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Kopasz Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2008 Posts: 241 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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i gave this about a second's thought:
1. I need (want) the hinge.
2. I can do it myself, but am getting a headache thinking about it.
3. Somebody has the issue solved and engineered already? Hell yeah!
I decided that my time and headache is worth $200. Hell, since I'm in PDX, I might just have Eric do it for me so that I can make it even easier on myself.
And, alas, all this is so I can spend even more money on 25mm spacers to bump my rear wheels out for a more aggressive look......
I agree with T.K. _________________ adam
'87 Wolfsburg Weekender, Bostig Zetec
The rehabilitation of my Van can be found here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5949024#5949024 |
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