Whats the difference between these two steering wheels?

Sooty Sooty

Is it the size of the spline hole?

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Why is one not for a split?

I have a near mint one on my 53 Oval that I don't want.

How can I guage what price to sell it for and will it fit a split if it's on my 53 Oval? Cheers.

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cheers.

33woodie · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:53 am Post subject:

I think the hole size is the same but the splines are different (coarse vs. fine). I would guess that yours should be the same as a split.
Regards,
Jim
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Bruce · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:55 am Post subject:

Since both of those steering wheels have later 3x3 part numbers, neither of them are for splits. They both have fine splines. A split wheel would have coarse splines.
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usariemen · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject:

Both could be installed in a split. Technically. The later fine splines work with the earlier steering shafts. But both are no split parts and your 1953 one isn´t either. A split ones outer ring where you grab it has a kind of "thumb rail" like the batwing ones have. They where not that round.
At least in mine.
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Sooty Sooty · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject:

So now i'm confused! Is it just from an early bug then? Like a 60?

I don't want to advertise as the wrong thing!

usariemen · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject:

I am not sure when they changed the design for the ring but I would had expected that a 1953 still had the earlier style.
Looking at the pic, you have an export model anyway.
So your three spoke was added somewhen later. Maybe its late 50s or even 60s.
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Sooty Sooty · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject:

Yeh, I have the OG Batwing, but as the horn push was missing I put the 3 spoke one on for the UK MOT.

I want to put the OG Batwing back on and sell the 3 spoke!

My Bug is a Sept 53 RHD Deluxe.

usariemen · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject:

Well, so then pull it of and take a look at the number and the splines.
That will tell you more.
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33woodie · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject:

Jake,
I think usariemen makes a good point. You need to take your 3-spoke off and see if it is coarse or fine splines. I have never tried to put a fine spline wheel over a coarse spline shaft but I have done the opposite, (coarse spline wheel over a fine spline shaft on my '56 and it does not fit).

If yours is coarse spline it appears that it will not fit fine splines shafts and would only work on early cars.

regards,
Jim
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usariemen · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:49 pm Post subject:

As I said, fine spline ones can be put into early cars.
So this one could be late.
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Sooty Sooty · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:05 pm Post subject:

Cheers guys, will look tomorrow. Many thanks.

RareAir · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject:

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bally · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject:

Does he mean it's not for split screen vans rather than split bugs (he goes on to say it's for bugs or Fridolins)?

I sold mine for £150 GBP - it is a later standard model wheel. It has since been professionally restored and last I saw it was for sale for £450 - I don't know if it sold though. $550 for NOS would therefore look like a bargain. $1500 maybe slightly overpriced. Maybe yours would be £300 if in original unrestored condition?

Just my thoughts.

Dave

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Look for turn signal canceling ring (or screw holes for it)!

33woodie · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:09 am Post subject:

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33woodie · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:16 am Post subject:

Thanks for the clarification Sad

regards,
Jim
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drscope · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:49 am Post subject:

I think the real difference between these 2 wheels is $950.
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Sooty Sooty · Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject:


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